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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by ABC2019 » 26/02/20, 16:13

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ABC2019 wrote:So, finally, double blind studies do exist, and are they very useful for proving the effectiveness of homeopathy, unlike everything you have claimed so far?

So ultimately, those who messed up are those who said that homeopathy "is not more than a placebo" and who look good idiots. : Cheesy:

no, I will give you a little time to think about why the example cited does not mean much .... (except that it destroys the argument that double-blind studies would not be adapted to H .)
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 16:17

ABC2019 wrote:no, I give you a little time to think about why the example cited does not mean much ...

I would have bet my right hand that you would get out of such a mess! Gagné.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by ABC2019 » 26/02/20, 16:19

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ABC2019 wrote:no, I give you a little time to think about why the example cited does not mean much ...

I would have bet my right hand that you would get out of such a mess! Gagné.

I do not see how it is a filth, it is just the maieutics ...

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maïeutique_(philosophie)
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 16:21

ABC2019 wrote:I do not see how it is a filth, it is just the maieutics ...

And what do you want me to do? The use of maieutics to convey shitty or good ideas is your problem.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 16:23

This article reported on a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study performed in the pediatric surgery department with 50 children. It showed that the drug Aconit in homeopathic dilution (4CH) was effective on postoperative agitation in a very significant way (95% of good results with Aconit against 30% with the placebo). Contrary to what critics claim, there are therefore convincing controlled studies in favor of the effectiveness of homeopathy. Science is discreet, but it is indisputable.

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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 16:31

ABC2019 wrote:no, I give you a little time to think about why the example cited does not mean much ...

Adapted from the sentence * of the genius of Econology:
Poor ABC2019, he does not yet know at his age that it only takes a single counterexample to invalidate a supposed general rule, like the ineffectiveness of homeopathy!

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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Janic » 26/02/20, 16:33

ABC2019 »26/02/20, 16:53
janic wrote: precisely, you don't know, so find out from the right sources!
Janic's good sources are like the priest John of the Middle Ages. It is believed to exist, but no one knows where
Especially when one refuses to look for the obvious.
yes yes and the inside of the Moon is made of fromage blanc. It is obvious, and the evidence is plentiful and available on the internet, but I will not tire of giving it to you, if you refuse to look for it on the right sources
especially since I don't care, I'm VGL
quote] janic wrote: Now obviously, this "alternative" medicine is not included in the statistics of conventional medicine. So you won't find anything with them, that goes without saying.
I am talking to you about statistics of reductions in mortality due to diseases, that does not prejudge the reasons, "conventional" or "unconventional", and I do not limit my information. What diseases have strongly regressed thanks to homeopathy then according to homeopaths? [/ Quote] [quote
everything is in their literature obviously, since they are not admitted in A. literature, in France !!!!
ah yes it's true all the information exists and if you don't give it it's just so you don't get tired !!! [/ quote] exactly! but he's a smart guy
About how much? Considering the only one you mentioned, you shouldn't have sprained your wrist!
you know you are tiring?
Yes, but tireless! : Cheesy:
ah that's it i found one !!
Well done, when we search, we end up finding ... finally!

http://www.homeopathie-francaise.com/in ... e-grenoble
This article reported on a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study performed in the pediatric surgery department with 50 children. It showed that the drug Aconit in homeopathic dilution (4CH) was effective on postoperative agitation in a very significant way (95% of good results with Aconit against 30% with the placebo). Contrary to what critics claim, there are therefore convincing controlled studies in favor of the effectiveness of homeopathy. Science is discreet, but it is indisputable.
so finally double-blind studies do exist, and are very useful to prove the effectiveness of homeopathy,
Of course, as this article reminds us, it would even be H who "invented" it.
unlike everything you've claimed so far?
one more fantasy, I never said that, but this:
a) From memory I said that the percentage of placebos was similar whatever the applied medicine; H like A or others.
b) It was not necessary to compare only H versus placebo, but all three AT THE SAME TIME, on the same patients, alternatively etc ... otherwise it gives its last passage precisely.
But you are progressing!
You see, when you want, you can! and without me!
Except for something that's also what I wrote right here. If you are interested I can highlight the matches and especially the last part.

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I have given you at least two which are professional reference organizations.

Ah yes? so here excuse me, in all your verbiage where you kept saying that it was not your job, I missed the place where you gave them to me !! can you give them back to me please?
given that you answered it right after, is that you had read it well! so search again, I'm not your boy!
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 20:32

Janic wrote: I am not your boy!

This kind of neo-clever scientist (modern concept), doesn't give a damn about your answers, but he asks for them. Why? Flatter your oversized ego? Bounce on it to sink in? To ask other shitty questions? Advance the Schmilblick?
It is just a troll (more) who rolls (the mechanics) for the industrialists of any obedience and who claims superior skills to better disqualify anyone who comes out of his blinders. There are at least three on this forum, each more rotten than the other.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by ABC2019 » 26/02/20, 20:42

GuyGadebois wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:I do not see how it is a filth, it is just the maieutics ...

And what do you want me to do? The use of maieutics to convey shitty or good ideas is your problem.

and we are surprised that Socrates was sentenced to death ...
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 20:44

ABC2019 wrote:and we are surprised that Socrates was sentenced to death ...

Yeah yeah yeah, and Jesus crucified, and Joan of Arc burnt, and Jaurès, and Marilyn murdered by the CIA, etc, etc ... Go TE ch ....
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