Constitutional reform: what media analysis?

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Re: Constitutional reform: what media analyzes?




by Grelinette » 10/02/16, 22:20

All this noisy politico-media agitation is fundamentally not of much interest: this constitutional reform is all the more curious in that, at the same time as politicians debate it with statements in the media, these same media us recall that what in question has already existed in French law for a long time and has already been applied! (the famous "deprivation of nationality"). Not to mention the "specialists" in law and the constitution who claim that a simple change in the law would have had the same effect ...
The media also underline the convoluted subtleties of the text to avoid creating stateless persons, and do not forget to say that the countries (those which concern the 2nd nationality which will allow them to return unwanted persons) will not necessarily appreciate to "recover these ex-French terrorists" ... and could do the same at home to send us their own unwanted citizens stripped of their nationality for other reasons: it will be unwanted exchanges between countries, in short! ("I send you a local suicide bomber, and you return a local bomber ...")

As for the state of emergency (also already provided for in the law) ... engraving it in the constitution would make it easier and longer to implement ... if I understood correctly!

In short, all that seems to me to be politically verbiage which consists of making texts to stack to modify others already stacked, but it is far from the everyday life of the citizen.
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Re: Constitutional reform: what media analyzes?




by Ahmed » 11/02/16, 11:26

Your penultimate sentence shows that you have understood the challenge of this reform. On the other hand, I do not share your opinion expressed in the last sentence: of course, these constitutional quibbles are far from everyone's concerns, but it is a tool that is being put in place, which is not trivial and could well catch up with the (less and less) "citizen"!
The return to more muscular policies is taking place in a context that has never existed before: the means of identification, surveillance and intervention are incomparable with what has been practiced in the darkest hours of our history.
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by Grelinette » 11/02/16, 13:53

Ahmed wrote:... On the other hand, I do not share your opinion expressed in the last sentence: of course, these constitutional quibbles are far from everyone's concerns, but it is a tool that is being put in place, which is not trivial. and could well catch up with the (less and less) "citizen"!
The return to more muscular policies is taking place in a context that has never existed before: the means of identification, surveillance and intervention are incomparable with what has been practiced in the darkest hours of our history.

It is quite possible that some particularly devious and manipulative, even cynical politicians, seize every opportunity and emotional event, take advantage of all new technological means to extend and protect their privileges and powers, but I think that most of them are encysted in purely political actions and reasoning in which the theory and symbolism of their acts is more important than the concrete purpose, in other words for the interest of the country.

It is like our late Minister of the Budget, Mr. Cahuzac, who was as zealous in organizing the fight against tax fraud as in defrauding himself! or our new Minister of Labor, undoubtedly a bright and competent woman, already well invested in the resumption of her new ministry, and who gets stuck on a basic question on the CDD proving in fact her distance from the reality of the world working citizens ...

A good part of this "fauna" evolves in comfortable and theoretical high spheres far from the realities of the citizens, and gargles texts, oppositions of principle on the opposite side, bills of laws, regulations and modification of the Constitution (supreme act for a politician!), To fill and justify the time for which they are handsomely paid, and incidentally to take root in their place.
In many ways, the precepts of politics are akin to those of religion: God on the one hand, at the very top, poor sinners on the other, at the very bottom, and in between, a cohort of untouchable to interpret and impose the good word ...
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Re: Constitutional reform: what media analyzes?




by Ahmed » 11/02/16, 20:48

Of course, I understand your point very well and my intention was absolutely not to propose the idea of ​​a perfectly orchestrated plot. Simply, I note that against a background of fairly common partisan struggles, more global trends are emerging whose actors are most often perfectly oblivious: it is that in the background, the dark forces express themselves and prevail over the wills special. Systemic logics weave their deterministic fabric and make fun of men.
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