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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by Christophe » 21/04/22, 12:11

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I like when you make short sentences, because I understand everything : Wink:


Ah you too? : Lol:
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




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Ahmed wrote:Bad luck, the Navy, she doesn't want the veil... : Wink:


Nice !! 8) 8) 8)
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by izentrop » 21/04/22, 12:21

Christophe wrote:
izentrop wrote:What are you doing here?
If the pack ice does, it's as much because of the private car as the yacht Bolloré.
I'm talking about your pro lobbies behavior... are you going to deny it?
Yes,
As you see a "troll" where it is factual..., what is your definition of "lobby"?
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by izentrop » 25/04/22, 22:13

+44°C in India, +50°C in Pakistan... South Asia is experiencing an extreme heat wave as India recorded its hottest March in 122 years. These temperatures are a clear sign of the impacts of climate change. According to NASA, this area could become uninhabitable as soon as 2050 due to the heat mixed with the humidity which prevents the body from sweating and therefore from cooling down. A risk that climate experts, the IPCC, had already identified in one of their reports, and which is beginning to materialize.

https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 50738.html
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by ABC2019 » 25/04/22, 22:44

izentrop wrote:
+44°C in India, +50°C in Pakistan... South Asia is experiencing an extreme heat wave as India recorded its hottest March in 122 years. These temperatures are a clear sign of the impacts of climate change. According to NASA, this area could become uninhabitable as soon as 2050 due to the heat mixed with the humidity which prevents the body from sweating and therefore from cooling down. A risk that climate experts, the IPCC, had already identified in one of their reports, and which is beginning to materialize.

https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 50738.html


another biased way of putting it, there is no data to show how these temperatures compare to usual temperatures. But one of the tweets says that

Temperatures will approach April record levels.


which means they didn't break any records!!

and in the month of March, since there are two hundred countries, even if the temperatures were randomly distributed, there would be on average two per year that beat their record for 100 years, so this figure means absolutely nothing no more.

This does not mean that the RC does not exist, it means that these data provide absolutely no useful information to measure it, contrary to the style adopted by JMJ. What is significant is the average trend over 30 years, and it is of the order of 0,02°C per year. The "records" bring nothing more.
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by izentrop » 26/04/22, 01:10

ABC2019 wrote: one of the tweets it says that

Temperatures will approach April record levels.
Whatsaid? Or is that a tweet?
India is one of the countries in the world where the frequency of heat waves has increased the most in 40 years: the Indian meteorological service counted 413 days with temperatures above 40°C between 1981 and 1990, and 600 days between 2011 and 2020.
https://www.futura-sciences.com/planete ... urs-98116/

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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by ABC2019 » 26/04/22, 05:12

izentrop wrote:
ABC2019 wrote: one of the tweets it says that

Temperatures will approach April record levels.
Whatsaid? Or is that a tweet?



there, and it is quoted in the article that you give, you do not read your own links?


India is one of the countries in the world where the frequency of heat waves has increased the most in 40 years: the Indian meteorological service counted 413 days with temperatures above 40°C between 1981 and 1990, and 600 days between 2011 and 2020.
https://www.futura-sciences.com/planete ... urs-98116/



again I'm not saying that the RC doesn't exist, and obviously if there is an increase in the mean, with a constant dispersion, the number of days above a given X value will increase. It is not surprising and I do not deny it.

I'm just saying that the information given by JMJ's message doesn't add anything (and it wasn't the one that was given).

The one you give is also open to criticism because we do not know what "one of the countries in the world where the frequency of heat waves has increased the most in 40 years" means: what is the definition of "heat wave" adopted ? is the increase absolute or relative? "one of the countries where it has increased the most", it is also vague since we do not know where we stop in the list of countries "where it has increased the most" nor what is the place of India in this list... in short, false science under the guise of objective assertions.
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by izentrop » 26/04/22, 10:42

ABC2019 wrote:
izentrop wrote:
ABC2019 wrote: one of the tweets it says that
Whatsaid? Or is that a tweet?
there, and it is quoted in the article that you give, you do not read your own links?
Indeed, sorry 8) and I grant you that this novethic journal tends to add superlatives.
ABC2019 wrote:I'm just saying that the information given by JMJ's message doesn't add anything (and it wasn't the one that was given).

The one you give is also open to criticism because we do not know what "one of the countries in the world where the frequency of heat waves has increased the most in 40 years" means: what is the definition of "heat wave" adopted ? is the increase absolute or relative? "one of the countries where it has increased the most", it is also vague since we do not know where we stop in the list of countries "where it has increased the most" nor what is the place of India in this list... in short, false science under the guise of objective assertions.
It is not JMJ but someone who publishes in his name, with his authorization.

You note the journalistic interpretation, which is necessarily more or less biased...
What matters is the data
the Indian Meteorological Service counted 413 days with temperatures above 40°C between 1981 and 1990, and 600 days between 2011 and 2020.
and there the increase in "heat waves" clearly visible on the graphic readings:
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by Obamot » 26/04/22, 10:58

Christophe wrote:So come on, another little intellectual effort, you're almost there... : Cheesy:
Do not ask him the impossible, huh : Cheesy:
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Re: The latest figures and weather consequences of global warming




by ABC2019 » 26/04/22, 11:05

izentrop wrote:You note the journalistic interpretation, which is necessarily more or less biased...
What matters is the data
the Indian Meteorological Service counted 413 days with temperatures above 40°C between 1981 and 1990, and 600 days between 2011 and 2020.
and there the increase in "heat waves" clearly visible on the graphic readings:


the same, the quotes you give are very questionable in relation to the subject:

* the Mars anomaly map doesn't say anything about the trend at all (plus we see a cold anomaly over Siberia and western Asia, so it's obviously a temporary fluctuation that has nothing to do with the long-term trend)

* the graph of global warming doesn't even have a y-axis, it's a shame for a scientist! there is little chance that it will be very different from global warming, so what more does it teach?

Once again, I'm not disputing the existence of global warming, I'm just saying that the catastrophic posts making an opportunistic exploitation of local weather fluctuations, by wrapping them in an anxiety-provoking and catastrophic discourse, bring absolutely no information useful. Because over a year in the world, you will always find a place where a record of heat, cold, drought, rain, is beaten. And we can always chirp that it's due to the RCA, anyway it's unverifiable.

But for me it's the same barrel as the antivaxes that show us cases of thrombosis in such and such a person, it has nothing to do with statistics, therefore with science
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