ADHD, how to format the company in the bud

[Grelinette]

Hello everybody

Overall, on the bottom we say the same thing: our society is fundamentally geared towards the pursuit of money, and this end justifies all the means for certain pushers (The word is weak because the means go so far as to cause death knowingly, cf Case Servier, contaminated blood, etc.).

On the form, we diverge : some people think that there is a real thoughtful strategy, meticulously constructed to weaken and enslave the population for the sole purpose of refourguer products, quick and poorly done mainly for low reasons of greedy profitability (often individual approach).

It is on this last point that the conspiracy theories do not share.

Nevertheless, it is clear that certain practices and commercial approaches, and policies (strategies) imagine, begin, develop, develop and contaminate populations to cause enormous health scandals, social and societal. I analyze this drift as an endemic weakness of Man to exploit and rush into the smallest power over others he can hold at a time, and which produces a certain satisfaction, even enjoyment, to the point to no longer perceive that he destroys his own species, that he destroys himself.

It is a comparison a little far-fetched, but while I write this comment I listen to a program in which we talk about the case DSK will be judged. DSK is the symbol of this state of affairs: a rich, powerful and brilliant man, he succeeds everything, imposes himself to all, is praised by all. His financial drift quickly fall into the media oblivion, ditto for his sexual drifts. In the same way as the actors of the practices and commercial drifts that I describe above, DSK has taken the feet of the carpet of a frenzy and an unconscious bulimia which brought him in the wall.

As we say a few times, "the person you should be wary of the most is yourself".

This human propensity to gorge without limit, to impose oneself on others until destroying it, is perhaps a gene that we carry all in our genetic inheritance? ... In this sense, from the school one notices that the young children can show extreme and gratuitous violence towards their friends ...
I often wondered if this destructive reflex of others, and of oneself, was only human or if one found it in the other animal species. I do not have the answer. Does the number of human beings on the planet give the impression that this desire to destroy one's neighbor is typically human? ...

In short, sorry to have trolled a little basic subject, but conspiracy or not, the fact is that man is often characterized by destructive practices and self-destructive ... And curiously also by impulses of generosity, d unpublished help and reconstruction.

"Our society is a cruel and generous society".

Go figure.

[Obamot]

Hello Bidouille,

It is not stupid at all that you write, on the contrary it is well summarized!

If everyone did as you say, the pharma industry would brew fewer billions.
We are talking more and more about the other possibilities of medicine, alternative medicine and "junk food".

If we could see a drop in the pharma industry, that would mean that overall health improves, or vice versa ...

Yes it's crazy, it's true, finally we all agree, even with Grelinette.

At a ready detail, I do not think I said it this way:

some people think that there is a real thoughtful strategy, meticulously constructed to weaken and enslave the population for the sole purpose of refourguer products, quick and poorly done mainly for low reasons of greedy profitability (often individual approach)

This is the lobbies own (after we call it what we want, agreements or what do I know) ...

"Access to clean water, should not be a public right"

What do you call that, Grelinette?

In my corner:

Transparency and regulation of lobbying in the federal Parliament

Submitted text
Pursuant to Article 160 1 of the Constitution and Article 107 of the Parliament Act, I submit the following parliamentary initiative:

The Parliament Act and the By-Laws of both Houses must be amended so that:

1. lobbyists wishing to gain access to the Parliament Palace are accredited to conditions that remain to be determined;

2. a public register of such accreditations is established and maintained by the Parliamentary Services;

3. this registry requires lobbyists to report their mandates and / or their employers;

4. in case of violation of these rules, measures are taken.


Full description: (For those who are interested)
http://www.parlament.ch/f/suche/pages/g ... d=20110448

Result:
The board decides not to act on the initiative.

In Brussels: (list the lobbies .. who want it!)
http://blogs.rue89.nouvelobs.com/lobby- ... ien-229541

Officially 7000 "visitors" per month, approx. 15 according to ARTE.
5'527 organizations listed by Brussels (so should 1 on 3?)

QED

Whether voluntarily or not, the supply of the population through distribution networks, whether we like it or not - a form of formatting of civilization (society in the broad sense).

[bidouille23]

Bonjour,

I make my politicians, in fact I speak again, I do as it is shown to me every day;) ...

Quote:
some people think that there is a real thoughtful strategy, meticulously constructed to weaken and enslave the population for the sole purpose of refourguer products, quick and poorly done mainly for low reasons of greedy profitability (often individual approach)

I would say it differently even if the last photo of obamot summarizes a lot of things ...

Some think that SOME PERSON (few people, one of the ones in the photo for example) has a strategy which, even if it is not based on a murderous potentiality, does not put it aside and is quite aware of it. And accept it.

Others, smaller but who think they are bullocks, are in fact only toads who believe they are respected for their money and their little power, but are only pawns that make a system work that they have nothing to do in the end. kept their achievements ....

The consciousness of what is done is not everywhere nor in all the heads otherwise it would be anarchy , each to his dream before the eyes that blind him ... or not ... or little .... if possible ...

Grelinette a question:

how do you qualify the industrialists who decide alone, the definition of the norms of Daily Eligible Dose ....?

DJA which gives therefore quite the right to put in the diet any kind of poisons provided that the daily dose is admissible, or in other words, that the dose only kills us a little fire ....

despite the blah, this explains this:

source:

ADI

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dose_journ ... admissible

FAO

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisati ... griculture



"In collaboration with WHO, FAO is developing the Codex Alimentarius, an international standardization system for food. 3 They jointly administer the Joint FAO-WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) 4."

so if it's not a global organization, I would like you to explain to me from what time, we speak of conspiracy ???

If choosing voluntarily logic and actions murder by mutual agreement between all branches of the market and setting up the crazy guard and the laws and codes of laws that go with it, is not a kind of conspiracy against the human race so when is there a plot?


Plot is a big word? The results of all that we are made to eat are also called by big words ADHD ... and some also suffered from great mortal ills .... when it makes meow, that it has a tail claw and that it only thinks of eating and sleeping, we call it a cat .... why not do the same? on the other hand the bottom or wounds it is in their title World Organization ... not con see that they are to organize one can not tax them of fomented a plot ... it is not false it says clearly this is not hidden ....

Certain we must have read "aldous huxley" "the best of all worlds" and believe it a little too much ...

[dede2002]

Hello,

I find it positive that everyone agrees on the substance, despite different approaches.
The best of all worlds I was made to read at school, 40 years after I remember it very well, it scared me.
Conspiracy issues, I think the "conspiratorial diagnosis" tends to place people in a belief, "the invisible hand conspiracy", to "caricature" them, when conspiracies probably existed before we could even figure it out. 'write, small and large, sometimes even often antagonistic.
So is it easy to catalog those who ask tough questions in some kind of cult ...?

[Obamot]

Excellent remark, I'll try to think about it later!

(I add the following reflection to the question made to Grelinette by Bidouille)

Bein it's not complicated, at the time the UN was dealing with AIDS, it was even once again a reason to exist for the organization, through it it has accumulated extremely substantial funds dedicated to its fight ( without knowing very well what was the use of all these funds, since the only thing we could do was prevention campaigns, in my opinion ...)

Curiously, as long as there were other hypotheses about the origin of the disease (the chemical track for example):
http://www.sidasante.com/science/bioscience.htm

Even the discoverer of this disease (Montagnier) has become less locatable on the original theory.

And it is at this moment that the UN has distanced itself from this file, by creating UN-AIDS (before WHO), one never knows, sometimes that there is water in the gas, it will be the new entity that will play the role of lampist ...

And that, I know what I'm talking about, since I collaborated with this organization for more than ten years (precisely when it happened ...).

Afterwards, the WHO is largely "redeemed", by obstructing the dissemination projects of the virus of the pseudo-avian influenza ...!

She had developed a method that showed that the appearance of infectious foci, did not correspond to migratory currents ... The press ended up smothering the case ... (This especially that it had contributed in spite of it the truth will appear!). Another unclear file that was closed in the eternal game of goatee ...

I still have some anecdotes like ...

[dede2002]

...
Ainsi, le "DSM" is not the subject, I agree, we digress: it responds to a "need"
...
Wake up !!!

You say it's not the subject, yet it's in the subject's knot, precisely.
In your quoted interventions you treat him of "infamous DSM", and in the link which you put of the Kousmine institute it is clearly used.
There is a minority (??) of specialists who dispute it and advise other approaches, it means that there are still many who follow it to the letter.
In the case of this subject, it concerns the prescription of Ritaline (hard drug) to children from 6 years.
(in the DSM5 he even planned a treatment against masturbation, physical for now)

[Obamot]

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First I do not remember making any connection between Kousmine, the DSM (and orthomolecular medicine of course). I had interviewed her, and we never talked about it!

Here we will talk about the beginning of the thread. When one of the participants grazes different pathologies. I think you have to be very careful with words, especially when you talk about these topics. Their mere evocation can have serious consequences for some subjects! And that the DSM, I'm not sure he takes it into account!

In the age of the betebo / placebo who are really not, there is something to wonder about the power of self-healing that we have and is still unknown.

So yes I rebel against this pseudo-bible of the "patapsyzic tote". For reasons that I cannot fully discuss here due to prerequisites to understand what I am going to express. In short: approx. 80% of pathologies are of" psy "origin, BUT, it is not because people are sick, but because society has made them sick ...

To understand it you have to study A. Masslow (in class, in a book it would be useless, there are some who did not graduate because they did not understand what he meant) .

If we go one step higher, at the center of it all - I mean the "problem" of staying "healthy" - (and I will repeat myself): there is the telescoping between "personal will»VS«free will"To which must be added a" mediator "between the two, which could for example the"need of constraint", Specific to each individual, and that we can live together without having to kill each other ...

If I say that there are two faces in the human being: does it help to understand? Understand that the DSM - being a theoretical model that drives us to build ourselves our own psychic contention camisole* via education, culture, the professional world etc - (even if some of these things are good ... I do not throw everything) so look for answers elsewhere ...

This is a debate that will look far ...

* Ritalin is not far from that ...

[bidouille23]

Dede nice summary

I find it positive that everyone agrees on the substance, despite different approaches.
The best of all worlds I was made to read at school, 40 years after I remember it very well, it scared me.
Conspiracy issues, I think the "conspiratorial diagnosis" tends to place people in a belief, "the invisible hand conspiracy", to "caricature" them, when conspiracies probably existed before we could even figure it out. 'write, small and large, sometimes even often antagonistic.
So is it easy to catalog those who ask tough questions in some kind of cult ...?

TOut is saying, the answer is definitely yes it's easy to practice and easy ... and it can pay big ...

[Obamot]

CORRIGENDUM: I have just seen the passage where DSM is mentioned in Kousmine's document (mea maxima culpa). the reason is that the acronym had been separated by dots (which with the typographic rules applied for almost fifteen years, is no longer beyond 2 Letters, for example is separated by dots, but not UN [...]).

The problem of short memory andtheoretical curve of forgetting. "
The human is like that, he is optimistic, which makes him forget quickly (curious sometimes).

Here an example where the "will harmIs not so much questionable!

Breast milk substitutes (including milk powder)
Or legitimate questioning about the attitude of multinational milk (including Nestlé) and therefore their intentions and consequences, well-known, thoughtful and assumed.

Mainly in the third world
What everyone has known for a long time in medical and / or industrial circles (and that everyone should know in the population) about this type of products today:

- To replenish the milk, you need a lot of water. This is potentially criminal, since it obliges the mother of the child to make him drink water which is not always healthy (has a baby, therefore a particularly vulnerable being, since it has not yet constituted / builds all its immune barriers).

1,6 billion people do not have access to safe water and 2,6 billion do not have access to basic sanitation. More than 1.400 children under the age of 5 die every day for lack of access to water. In other words, 1,8 million children die each year for lack of sufficient access to drinking water http://www.planetoscope.com/mortalite/2 ... table.html

[to which must be added] 3,4 million people die each year from aquatic pollution ...
http://www.planetoscope.com/mortalite/4 ... monde.html

It is therefore potentially 5 mios of people who die by this cause, and these manufacturers will propose to these populations, to over-consume water, which will have the effect of increasing the mortality of juveniles!

- It may contain aflatoxin if it has not been produced in a moisture-free environment (which is rarely the case) and further increases the risk of juvenile mortality;

- The process causes a concentration of heavy metals, lead, radionuclides, etc. and only the most harmful remains (the others are degraded over time);

- The most serious is that, by dint of bludgeoning by advertising, it makes breastfeeding decline in the mothers who let themselves be tempted, only as soon as the mother stops breastfeeding she will not produce more milk herself! Therefore, if the poor quality of the water used produces diarrhea, it can no longer reverse (and return to breast milk). Moreover, powdered milk does not contain the antibodies of breast milk ... The trap closes on her and the baby whose death may well occur (under the conditions necessary for this not to happen ...)!

- In addition, the artificial milk that promises the wonders of convenience, is sometimes sold with dumping thanks to subsidization to put the local milk producers on their knees and give preference to its use by the population, sometimes sold very expensive in other countries, it is then diluted more than prescribed to make it last longer, causing systemic secondary and primary malnutrition in babies!

And all this, industry know very, very well ... Some were accused by the European Parliament in Brussels. And many times elsewhere. And this is not new - so manufacturers can not ignore these facts - since the first polemics date back to the seventies (ie for more than 35 years):
http://www.rts.ch/archives/tv/informati ... s-vif.html

Other sources:
http://www.gifa.org/les-fabricants-cont ... rnational/
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lait_en_po ... 3.A9nients
http://convergencealimentaire.info/?page_id=18
Even the WHO says it (by prohibiting the advertisement since 30 years ...):
http://derriereletiquette.overblog.com/ ... -de-nestle
https://lociol.wordpress.com/2010/11/29 ... what-else/

And with all that, we put where the cursor enters: 'Fraud' simple 'for commercial motive' VS "Involuntary negligence to willfully voluntary" VS "Proven poisoning contribution" VS "Possible will to harm" to consider this as a 'demographic weapon?'

[Obamot]

... with - taking into account what we know of what the "human species" is capable of - some possible variants ... to choose from and to develop with the QQOQCCP (from the best possible configuration, to the worst categorization):

«healthy and irreproachable productVS "Industrial product - just flawless from the point of view of compliance with legislative standards but without the desire to worry about the health of consumers in the long term" VS "Industrial product voluntarily devitalized to ensure a long-term preservation - so not irreproachable - but without finding yet established to intentionally harm purposefully" VS "Devitalized industrial product, idem - so not irreproachable - but without everything being humanly done to not harm involuntarily" (1) SV "Negligence leading to possible involuntary fraud through ignorance of the facts, causes and effects, but guilty for not taking steps to prevent this from happening" VS 'Simple' fraud 'for exclusively mercantile reasons, while knowing the potential nuisances, but leaving the task of disentangling it by the legislator' (2) SV "Fraud exclusively for mercantile reasons, ignoring known risks and becoming legally tangible - through various partial obstacles to the law while, on the other hand, other (all?) Standards are respected - barriers that are understood in light of the recommendations of the health authorities or the legal framework " VS 'Fraud' aggravated by knowledge of the risks to consumers, but purposely to influence voluntarily either their consumer behavior (for example by encouraging them to consume more or by seeking to make them captive to any way) or to predispose it - then to propose solutions palliative and always more expensive, or any other way / consequence of this type or of any other order: as for exemplary, any connection between the creation of need in this respect and the resulting, from the agri-food sector to the pharmaceutical sector " (3) SV "Deliberate and willful negligence to sell at any cost whatever the price paid by some of the consumers and taking from any marketing strategy and / or cognitive-behavioral study (or other segmentation of psychosociological profiling) to achieve this goal" VS "Proven poisoning contribution for the purpose of deliberately weakening targeted populations" VS "Possible will to harm" until considering it as planned as a weapon of depopulation '(considering at the planetary level that the demography is galloping and that it would be necessary "to remedy" through a possible "mission "that would be attributed in a self-proclaimed way of" super-decision-makers "in supranational agreements, kind possibly up to referring to standards that some groups would have self-proclaimed, which borders on the case of the Codex Alimentarius) there we are at the elitist class level quasi $ cientological " (4) SV "The evil will to decimate and do evil for the pleasure of exterminating" (5)? I let you choose...

We must take into account that we are in effects which may take a long time to manifest, some having to combine with others to become active. And there the health authorities sometimes have some "wars" behind in setting standards or legislating ...

1) At this level, it would already contravene the standards defined by "REACH", and therefore potentially illegal. From this stage, with possible “scrambling” by diverting attention to other stakeholders in the manufacturing / processing chain (case of horse meat sold for beef, etc.) with regard to “semi-processed” products. worked ".
2) At this level, far exceeds the stage of ascenario consciously establishes»Within the framework of various perspectives and encroaching further on the ground of illegality, but difficult to define in view of the burden of proof ... (However reversed under REACH, but only with regard to "new substances"introduced, because REACH is not retroactive.) With subsidiarily upstream or downstream, changes in the process than those initially planned, certified / validated by the supervisory authorities ... (Another known way of blurring the lines. )
3) What at this stage is already transgressing the respect of the legislative framework;
4) It is only at this stage that a drift in the appreciation of facts is eventually possible - if not having evidence - since all previous stages have precedents! So this is where to say stop and beware of any paralogism / syllogism / sophism. Because pushed to its extreme expression, we would eventually be there at the so-called "genocidal" stage (if it is true *)! But in the case of many WHO guidelines, it would not be far and the border is difficult to define. Thus everyone will gauge by guarding himself before any paranoid type reflex ...
5) Here it reaches in the crescendo of horror, the stage of "crime against humanity".

(cow, you still make me ... work!)

* I note in passing that this stadium had been reached in a proven way and recognized at least in one case by the US administration (which had had to do its mea culpa and grant compensation to the survivors of the black population, which had been inoculated syphilis during a vaccination campaign, probably in the fifties ...)