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by Obamot » 03/09/14, 15:17

Christophe wrote:
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We see that Google and others are on the way to using drones to make their deliveries, again this will not solve anything except to delete workplaces, [...] The automated stock transactions do not do better, in ruining industries as much as small farms in the [agricultural] sector.


Yes ... and unemployment is the luxury of too rich societies!
And it is not a paradox! Just an economic math!

Exact. Besides, before and after mathematics there is always politics, not far ...: it's a bit like automation / robotization, the arrival of IT (etc ...) it is not causes but "the intentionality behind it all "upstream, which produces the effects of downstream decisions, which is the real cause ...

By this, I mean that it is above all the consequence of the paradigm based on the archetype of the current theoretical model (supply market VS demand endlessly ...)!

As it already works only in successive crises, in an attempt to stay on track, the system put in place has bet everything on "need of constraint"(cf A Maslow) which is very real to him: the system only uses an old cliché, but ...

... although assumed, it resulted in "tacit self-control of populations by themselves"(while the UN believes or wants us to believe in a so-called"self-determination of peoples to self-determination", which is just a lot of rubbish, since nobody believes it, that we see everywhere the limits of this so-called" democratic system "(and that in fact, everything has been left to free rein the benevolent hands of the banks and the financial sector who write "our" laws in Brussels, mathematically yes: we are saved!)

At the same time, obviously via our "small-screens connected-automatically-and-who-lead-us-by-the-nose"the" official "lie spreads continuously and everywhere, even in the television news! To believe that journalists would not have Internet, they play autistic so much! (But maybe they will give us a special flash on robotization studio cameras ...?)

This utopia of International Organizations is impossible to achieve in practice, since the said model is rotten at the base, since it itself generates inequalities as and when it claims to fight them! (Hey, it looks like "Ahmed" : Mrgreen: )

Other than here, the current model would only be applicable ad vitam eternam with raw materials in abundance, when everyone knows very well that this is not possible (we have said it a hundred times here). We are already in the wall permanently in many areas ...! Starting with raw materials, then computer assisted driving is really the least of our concerns ...

This system condemned in a way to "catch up" permanently, is therefore no longer capable of predicting anything other than wars, financial crises, the ruins of entire countries, economic reforms which sweep away the hopes of employees (those who still have a "real job" I mean) a disappearance of the "middle classes" and so on, in short a "great permanent upheaval" to hide the chimeras under the carpet! (Not to say a coarser word ...)

Normal when a "modus vivendi" established and imposed on all, is no longer applicable / livable and even less a policy of full employment, since it draws its leverage in the automatic control of populations by fear in fact ( just like war) and the nerve of it the money (or the perpetual blackmail of its deprivation).

(Seen on TV de France3) A mother in France, the sole breadwinner, and who sends her kids to school without having enough to feed them with only pasta at noon and in the evening, symbolizes the total shame and the failure of an entire country: Mr. President of the Republic! (Why not replace the teachers with "playful robot educators", to save money, while we're at it ...)

At its delirious height of absurdity, the concept of "war on terror"invented by the Americans and which kill 95% of innocent people by missiles launched from drones as" collateral damage "(to wonder if the collateral is not the heart of the target to maintain a ferocious hatred, and even supported manu militari by the elected socialists as much as the previous Elysee regime) this concept is there only as a deterrent and to try to find a continuum and a justification for this endless murderous story. An end that justifies the means and ends in this moment its fall in the form of a snub to our own inconsistencies (the Iraqi-Syrian quagmire, with members of Al Quaeda who would have been frequentable and others who would not ...?! Germany would like to provide weapons to the "frequentables", but not to others ?!), contradictions and inability to stop the mad race towards, if we are not careful: in monumental clash of civilizations ...

And why not a total war if we do not leave the Peace to Putin! But what do we have about F ... "independent" Ukraine, I only think of the Russians, the common people and their aspirations. They did not know any boundaries (it is fine to be lesson-givers, when we are not already screwed to be consistent with ourselves), that we rather deal with the real problem and of the cause of the aftermath of the "Arab Spring" financed with millions of dollars by the CIA (and assumed by Washington) and their brooding pals, Black Waters or whatever. Problem to probably look for on the side of the colonization of the West Bank ... (Because as long as we talk about something else to divert our attention, they continue ...) and not in Ukraine ...

At this very moment, Europe is at war (from Russia to the north and to the Golan Heights to the south ...) against a backdrop of shameful lies motivated by an iniquitous geopolitics and beyond the control of the main belligerents, while not long ago, it was indeed a battery of missiles with automatic acquisition of robotic targets / controlled by two radars, which caused a civil aircraft to crash with 298 people on board ...!

Fuck your little Grelinette thread!
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by chatelot16 » 03/09/14, 19:18

fully automatic means of transport without a human pilot have already existed for a long time: elevator, then automatic tram! but it is a simple device operating in a fully controlled space

if it breaks down it hangs and we wait for troubleshooting to be delivered

for an airplane, you must necessarily have an experienced pilot to make the right decision if there is a problem because you cannot apply the brake and wait for repair: you have to finish the flight whatever it costs

why want to automate everything? we automate a washing machine because it would be very sad to stay next to the machine to turn the buttons to do the filling wash drain drain filling rinse spin ... finally the first washing machine at my parents was like that ... you even had to light a gas burner for heating!

but the automation of washing machines is not even carried out correctly: many recent washing machines have badly fucked up programs that wash poorly

so if we make automatic cars as bad as damn washing machines there will be a lot of accidents

and who will be responsible in the event of an accident? the car manufacturer?

for an electric tram it is simple: it is a single company which controls all the vehicles on the tracks ... everything is completely closed, with fixed doors which prevent going on the track when a tram is not in opposite the door ... there are no foreign vehicles on the track

there are also automatic vehicles in certain factories ... we say wire-guided trolleys ... but here too the company is fully in charge of the entire organization: there are no foreign vehicles
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by Flytox » 07/07/15, 18:24

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by I Citro » 08/07/15, 15:37

Travel has become a constraint that consumes our time, our productivity, our leisure.

Autonomous transportation represents a huge market.

They optimize:
- Transport times
- Energy costs
- freeing up available brain time to increase people's productivity and their availability to consume advertising, services and products ...

Personally, if I fear being stuffed with ads and other requests, I dream of being freed from the hassle of driving to relax, educate myself, rest, ...
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by Christophe68 » 11/07/15, 12:42

There is a technical challenge that I would have liked (if a sponsor reads us :) ).
The realization of an autonomous sailboat.
There are competitions of autonomous miniature sailboats with obstacle course but it is not very developed and it does not go any further.
They are called sailbot.
I like the idea of ​​a fleet of autonomous sailboats for freight transport.
The easiest vehicle to automate is the motor boat, at sea.

Otherwise security level it depends on the quality of design. There are good and not so good computer scientists as there are good and not so good drivers.
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