Adios Amigo Chavez, hasta siempre the r-evoluzione!

[BobFuck]

Ah ah ah it wraps up well your report, for once that the French TV leaves the truth, champagne!

In Argentina, it is the same with the Cristina K. they are on the same slope: bankruptcy, inflation, ultraviolet ...

Well, they're only a few years ahead of us, basically

[Christophe]

C in the air right now on Chavez ... very interesting especially on oil ...

Not so rosy indeed!

[sen-no-sen]

@bobfuck:
Under De Gaulle, VGE, Mitterand, Chrirac, Sarko, etc ... also it was not so rosy!
Give me a great nation government that is not corrupt?

There are two dominant models of governance in the world:

1)The hierarchical totalitarian system with a dictator or presi-dictators at its head: Example with Putin, Ahmadinejad, Castro etc ... Hugo Chavez was probably one of them, but let's say he looks like a quiet dictator / president hybrid.
It's a system pyramidal of dominance.

2)The Totalitarian Merchant System, also called "liberal democracy" (sic!).
It is the dominant model ... whose doctrine is globalism.
Wrongly called capitalism, it is in fact mimetic and can mix with all models (Ex with Liberal Communist China), before phagocytosis.
It is a concept based on exponential growth, profit maximization, and the will to transform.

It's a multipolar systemdominance, endowed with its own logic, and whose economy is the real leader.

There are hybrid countries between the two, but it doesn't last very long (e.g. with Libya's Gaddafi open to the world economy, but led by a tyrant).
Then there are stealthy countries in the system (small nations
like the Palau Islands, Costa Rica, Bhutan etc ...).

And of course we French are part of the model n ° 2 ...

[Ahmed]

It is a concept based on exponential growth, profit maximization, and the will to transform.

Isn't that the definition of capitalism?

I watched the anti-propaganda propaganda video ...

[BobFuck]

@bobfuck:
Under De Gaulle, VGE, Mitterand, Chrirac, Sarko, etc ... also it was not so rosy!

LOL.

Give me a great nation government that is not corrupt?

Hardly any, but the Venezuelan-style banana republics still break records.

2)The Totalitarian Merchant System, also called "liberal democracy" (sic!).

There is a vocabulary problem:

- Democracy is no more than a facade when all the parties which stand for election are identical, as here. "Same shit, different asshole" as the Americans say.

- There is nothing liberal in France, nor elsewhere in China ... capitalism of connivance, mercantilism, oligarchy, socialism, etc, yes; "liberalism", you read the French press too much ...

[Remundo]

This allowed him large financial returns, reinvested in the social policy of the country, but perhaps not enough in its industrial modernization ...

Currently, Venezuela is mainly in a passive economy, but pleasant, oil rent.

In continuation of what I said

Vincent Lapierre interviewed on France 24

V. Lapierre is an economist and specialist in the Latin American sector.

[sen-no-sen]

t;] Give me a great nation government that is not corrupt?

Hardly any, but the Venezuelan-style banana republics still break records.

Can you give me the number of countries that Venezuela to attack during the government Chavez, and make a comparison with the USA?

There is a vocabulary problem:

- Democracy is no more than a facade when all the parties which stand for election are identical, as here. "Same shit, different asshole" as the Americans say.

- There is nothing liberal in France, nor elsewhere in China ... capitalism of connivance, mercantilism, oligarchy, socialism, etc, yes; "liberalism", you read the French press too much ...

I wrote "liberal democracy" in quotes because it is a mystifying term.
FYI this is not a term that I got out of my hat, but a historical name:

Liberal democracy, a combination of democratic and liberal ideas, is the political system of Western democracies as opposed to "popular democracies", that is, communist regimes during the Cold War. Despite the disappearance of most of the latter, the expression is sometimes used to designate Western regimes.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9mocratie_lib%C3%A9rale

you read too much the French press ...

Yes, the term totalitarian merchant system comes straight from Madame le Figaro!

[sen-no-sen]

It is a concept based on exponential growth, profit maximization, and the will to transform.

Isn't that the definition of capitalism?

Partly, but to sum it all up under the name of capitalism is wrong.
What do you think in this case of the Chinese "great leap forward"?
It was not capitalism, but rather a logic of growth and transformation, yet it corresponds to the principles of the STM, without being capitalism.
In reality capitalism and communism, leads to the same thing, but not by the same path.

watched the anti-propaganda propaganda video ..

Ah! you understood that too!

[Christophe]

In continuation of what I said

Vincent Lapierre interviewed on France 24

V. Lapierre is an economist and specialist in the Latin American sector.

If I hear correctly, there is almost only positive socially according to economic indices (HDI included!) And even on inequalities. Strange then that violence has (supposedly) increased so much since it is generally correlated with poverty and inequality ...

Only negative point (economically speaking): the lack of oil investments.

This fully confirms what was said yesterday in "C in the air" to review here: http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/inte ... mort-38426 ...

[Remundo]

Indeed, and to go further on the ideological background of Hugo Chavez, France Culture Matins

Debate with:

* Jean-Claude Michéa, Philosopher and Essayist. Just published in the Climats editions The Mysteries of the Left, from the ideal of lights to the triumph of absolute capitalism

* Janette Habel, Lecturer at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Latin America