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by Obamot » 04/10/12, 12:55

Janic wrote:
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moinsdewatt wrote:I answer, by reading what you write luckily you don't breed anymore
we have the right to mess around sometimes, right? : Cheesy:
Yes, provided you find the happy medium! : Cheesy:


Rather aims below the belt : Cheesy: "Less_wadding" ...
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by moinsdewatt » 04/10/12, 20:44

lejustemilieu wrote:we have the right to mess around sometimes, right? : Cheesy:


ah in this case let go.

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by Obamot » 04/10/12, 21:59

° _What does this have to do with sauerkraut?

Less cotton wool, farting a cable? : Mrgreen: : Lol:

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keep cool ... 8)
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by dedeleco » 04/10/12, 23:02

Even the big bang of 13,7 billion years ago of the evolution of the whole universe and of life, would not be enough to unclog their ears, very audible and visible on the 115 pages of:

https://www.econologie.com/forums/l-evolutio ... 11282.html

https://www.econologie.com/forums/post228000.html#228000

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On epigenetics, with these negators of reality, we can have 1000 pages to explain the ENCODE project !! with even more religious fanatics, very dangerous in their negations, of HIV and other diseases !!!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/l-epigenet ... 11796.html


But sickened, I stopped writing real and scientific facts there.
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by Obamot » 05/10/12, 00:18

I love Banania, but I don't have to be "creationist"( : Mrgreen: )

I don't want to take sides (with or without leaving an address). ( : Mrgreen: )

And I don't want to speak for him, but Le_Juste_Milieu doesn't seem to me to have a dogmatic opinion on this question, I don't know much about it. forum...!

Who is wrong and who is right, and when?
I would give just one example: the NDAs. Some 10 years ago, we would still have taxed those who speak of it as sweet dreamers, but today the phenomenon is studied scientifically. So if we had remained there confined in a logic of purely confrontation between "pros" and "anti»NDA, we would have stayed on a priori and nobody would have been interested in this subject, which we had been talking about discreetly for well fifty years, if not always (?)

Besides, if we want to look for the little beast: the "Big Bang", You should tell us precisely what it is : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:

Then, does cosmogony come from an intelligent design (or not)? I claim that it has nothing to do with this supposed zero point on the one hand, and that on the other hand the two trends can perfectly coexist:
- science as we know it in its most current form;
- the right to ask questions about the "why of life", of our existence and even to seek to find an understanding in all that ... There is nothing scandalous!

Therefore, there is no longer any reason to seek "who is right or wrong".

It is in any case the party that took a lot of secular European universities ...! Since they have in principle always had a university chair in ... theology!

Paste the label of "creationist", to all goes, to those who" believe in God in the strict sense ", and you will see a whole bunch of new occult sects emerge! As if we did not already have enough em ... with the $ cientologue , the Order of the Solar Temple, or whatever ....

If among some of them there is dishonesty in the air (this is by far not the rule, and on the other hand, there are also scientists not very clear ... ) hamper their approach (and one or the other): continue this method which consists in banishing or rejecting, and you will only produce "the draft»Which all occult circles need to recruit new flocks ...!

I prefer not to banish them, that they openly assume their convictions, it allows me to debate them openly in public with them (or without them, but this freedom exists ...) - and just like with scientists - to have an eye on what they do (or don't do ....) ...! Furthermore, for all those who are honest: freedom of belief is a fundamental right ...

Finally, it must be remembered that there was a time, it was the religious circles that chased scientists! For fear ... We still see in recent history what it gives!

Let us therefore leave the freedom of thought! And to think ...

(and we are not going to put Janic at the stake, as long as he has not yet made his thread on the "VG") : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:

No, but! What is this witch hunt? !!!
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by dedeleco » 05/10/12, 02:01

Obamot, once again, reads nothing and writes without having read, however little:

Besides, if we want to look for the little beast: the "Big Bang", we would have to tell us precisely what it is


while there is an armada of facts observed on the consequences of this big bang which is getting better and better dated, with ceaselessly new galaxies observed almost as old as the big bang, to within 5%.

An armada of studies to read that Obamot refuses to read instead of chatting about a void, as deep as the interstellar void.

Seeing the birth of the universe in an atom of hydrogen

http://phys.org/news/2012-09-birth-univ ... rogen.html

Astrophysicists spy ultra-distant galaxy amidst cosmic 'dark ages
http://phys.org/news/2012-09-astrophysi ... osmic.html


Hubble goes to the eXtreme to assemble the deepest ever view of the universe
http://phys.org/news/2012-09-hubble-ext ... verse.html

Early universe may have been dominated by bobbing waves

http://phys.org/news/2012-07-early-univ ... bbing.html

Physicists search for new physics in primordial quantum fluctuations

http://phys.org/news/2012-03-physicists ... tions.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urknall

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

etc ...
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by Obamot » 05/10/12, 04:45

You ignite for nothing!

I didn't say I was against this theory ...

It would be worth specifying that we did not yet exactly know what happened, nor how long it lasted (if indeed it took place as a big bang, which is nonetheless very likely ...)

Here, it seems to me that there are a few points that remain to be understood, for scientists.

BUT ! The most important point was not whether it took place or not, since there is nothing serious that can replace this concept. So, it is clear that we do not know the scenario 100% amha ...

Wikipedia, about the big bang wrote:It is however false to say that the entire scenario describing this dense and hot phase is understood. Several eras or phenomena are still poorly understood, such as in particular that of baryogenesis, which saw a slight excess of matter in relation to antimatter before the latter's disappearance, as well as the details of the end of the inflation phase (if this has actually taken place), in particular preheating and reheating: if the Big Bang models are constantly evolving, the general concept is however very difficult to discuss.
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by the middle » 05/10/12, 07:34

In case,
there is a tab: "unsubscribe from the topic", so no more nervousness : Cheesy:
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by dedeleco » 05/10/12, 13:32

Obamot is a perfect negator of the experimental realities at the base of the big bang, proven, intersected for the essential points.
He refuses to read, to learn anything, before having an opinion !!!
It is a negationist religious attitude !!

Obamot wrote:You ignite for nothing!

It would be worth specifying that we did not yet exactly know what happened, nor how long it lasted (if indeed it took place as a big bang, ... ...)

There, it seems to me that there are a few points that remain to be understood for scientists.


Same, for a simple apple from a tree falling to the ground, in fact for gravitation and inertia, there are "a few points that remain to be understood, for scientists." like the Higgs boson, the graviton, the quantum unification of gravity- inertia-relativity- structure of the Higgs boson vacuum, structure in fact of all our universe, which is found in the big bang, with the Higgs boson releasing its field energy in inflation !!!
So this argument that we do not understand everything, to refuse everything, is a negationist nonsense !!!!
Obamot shows that he does not understand anything about the functioning of Science, already clearly visible with his statements on sound harmonics.
Science is not a religion which explains everything in a dogmatic and totalitarian way !!!

But it is an experimental fact, well observable in Obamot's brain, that by his evolution, man has an innate instinctive need for religion, for beliefs that give it meaning in life, even if it is false.


BUT ! The most important point was not that it took place or not, ...... So, it is clear that we do not know the scenario 100% amha ...



It is clear that Obamot has this instinctive need to explain everything, the whole thing, as in a religion that is forbidden to discuss, even if it is completely false, in total contradiction with the real facts.
And he rejects everything that does not give an explanation of everything without any possible doubt.

With this attitude, Science would not exist at all !!
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