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Re: The hydrogen car RE: the future?




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/03/21, 18:29

ABC2019 wrote: but "we don't care" eh.

Since all of this is constantly increasing, yes, completely.
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by sicetaitsimple » 03/03/21, 18:33

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:We do not care.


No, YOU'RE in trouble, not "we".
Think about it 2 minutes (I know, I am sometimes very demanding!) And compare Iceland to France, all the figures are fishy.
Iceland is about 350.000 inhabitants, roughly the agglomeration of Tours, Rennes or Saint-Etienne, on an area of ​​about 1 / 5th of France.
In other words, with the same population density, France would only have around 2.000.000 inhabitants!
Suffice to say that with its hydraulic alone, it would be largely 100% "green" for its electricity, and much more.
So, "we" don't care, it's just a big c ..... e.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/03/21, 18:37

sicetaitsimple wrote:
GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:We do not care.


No, YOU'RE in trouble, not "we".
Think about it 2 minutes (I know, I am sometimes very demanding!) And compare Iceland to France, all the figures are fishy.
Iceland is about 350.000 inhabitants, roughly the agglomeration of Tours, Rennes or Saint-Etienne, on an area of ​​about 1 / 5th of France.
In other words, with the same population density, France would only have around 2.000.000 inhabitants!
Suffice to say that with its hydraulic alone, it would be largely 100% "green" for its electricity, and much more.
So, "we" don't care, it's just a big c ..... e.

Yes we don't care (or at least we should). Iceland is privileged, benefits from its geological location and its overabundance of fleets. So much the better and that is only due to its POLICY in the matter. Its demography is irrelevant. Just as its COVID treatment POLICY was also independent of the number of its inhabitants.
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by ABC2019 » 03/03/21, 18:45

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
ABC2019 wrote: but "we don't care" eh.

Since all of this is constantly increasing, yes, completely.

in Iceland, not really, there are 6 big plants in production (the biggest one is 300 MW which is 1/3 of a nuclear reactor, the others around 100 MW), but I have not heard of important future projects.

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/featur ... s-iceland/

Even if Japan were to catch up with Iceland, it would only amount to 0,6% of its consumption.

In addition, Iceland has had some volcanic explosions which made them a little cautious about their geothermal power stations ... And when you don't live on a volcano, you have to dig and crack the rocks, which can pose some seismic problems.

https://www.lepoint.fr/societe/alsace-u ... 537_23.php

(FYI, the hydraulic fracturing techniques denounced for shale gas were initially developed for geothermal energy ...)
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by ABC2019 » 03/03/21, 18:49

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:[His demographics don't matter. .


Obviously, if it is important, the production of renewables such as hydroelectricity or geothermal energy is limited by natural geography, so the coverage rate depends on total consumption and therefore directly on the population!

If Japan produced as much as Iceland, that would still only make 0,6% of its needs !!

all the countries or provinces covering their needs by hydropower are all very sparsely populated: Iceland, Norway, Quebec ...
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by sicetaitsimple » 03/03/21, 18:56

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Just as its COVID treatment POLICY was also independent of the number of its inhabitants.


Even if it is completely irrelevant, I agree with you on the fact that treating the Covid epidemic in a country of the demographic size of the agglomeration of Tours or St Etienne, "naturally confined" given its surface and its location, a single international airport, is certainly easier than in other countries.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/03/21, 18:59

ABC2019 wrote:If Japan produced as much as Iceland, that would still only make 0,6% of its needs !!

If Japan produced proportionally as much as Iceland, that would also be 25%.
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by ABC2019 » 03/03/21, 19:03

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:If Japan produced proportionally as much as Iceland, that would also be 25%.

if he wanted to produce in proportion to his population, he would need 600 geothermal power plants and several thousand dams, except that there are no places to put that many. The production limits are geological, otherwise everyone would do like Iceland !!!
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/03/21, 19:08

ABC2019 wrote:
GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:If Japan produced proportionally as much as Iceland, that would also be 25%.

if he wanted to produce in proportion to his population, he would need 600 geothermal power plants and several thousand dams, except that there are no places to put that many. The production limits are geological, otherwise everyone would do like Iceland !!!

No, you don't know. As usual. Free, comes out of a hat. In short. I never claimed that geothermal energy was going to cover 10 or 100% of Japan's needs, I did NOT (again) give any figures. I just said this:
"It's that in Japan, they can use (like in Iceland) geothermal energy to make hydrogen, if they want."
NOTHING ELSE.

There followed pages covered with your dung, your delusions, your rotten numbers, your stupid overinterpretations and your crappy predictions.
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by ABC2019 » 03/03/21, 19:12

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:"It's that in Japan, they can use (like in Iceland) geothermal energy to make hydrogen, if they want."
NOTHING ELSE.

no one has contested that geothermal energy can be used to make hydrogen.

only if geothermal energy produces 0,25% of the electricity which should make 0,1% of the total energy, you will not achieve more than 0,1% of the hydrogen needs with that, that's all (and you will no longer have the corresponding electricity available).

I too can produce hydrogen with a small wind turbine and an electrolyser at home, no problem.
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