Kayapo Indians, when hydroelectricity kills a way of life

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Kayapo Indians, when hydroelectricity kills a way of life




by Christophe » 10/03/12, 08:17

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I have much more respect for a Warrior who protects Life - for us, for our children, our grandchildren and for future generations - than for a superficial civilization and its personal interests!

While magazines and TV channels talk about the lives of celebrities, the Chief of the Kayapo Tribe received the worst news of his life: Dilma, the president of Brazil, gave his approval for the construction of a huge hydroelectric plant (the 3rd largest in the world).

It is the death sentence for all the people living near the river, because the dam will flood about 400 hectares of forest. More than 000 Indians will have to find new places to live. The destruction of natural habitat, deforestation and the disappearance of several species are facts!

What turns my stomach, makes me ashamed to be part of this Western culture, is the reaction of the Chief of the Kayapo Tribe when he learns the decision - his gesture of helplessness in front of the advance of the progress of capitalism, a modern civilization which has no respect for cultures different from theirs ...

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But we know that a picture is worth a thousand words, and shows the real price to be paid for the "quality of life" of our bourgeois.

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Usually, when there are monstrosities in the world, Avaaz sends me a request for signature for a petition. But there, nothing. You will tell me that there are only 40 Indians ... Obviously, alongside millions of people, this is nothing. And yet! These Indians are the last of ancient civilizations, their way of life differs profoundly from ours and are anchored in values ​​that we sometimes despise, we who are so proud to produce, proud to have money, proud of progress which we wonders if we are really right to take pride in it. They still live simply, do not know the smart phones or other essential gadget but their life is harmonious, in a nature hitherto preserved. And in the name of what are we going to take that away from them, forcing them to leave, radically changing their lifestyle?

Does this mean that there is no longer any place in our world for those who live differently, that everything must be ironed out, that everyone, in the name of globalization, must lose their identity, their way of life.

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by the middle » 10/03/12, 09:00

Yes, there are no more limits, no more common sense ... no more respect for anything. :?
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by Christophe » 10/03/12, 09:44

The "worst" example of a social issue is still that of the 3 gorges: https://www.econologie.com/forums/barrage-de ... 10935.html and it will be for a long time I think ...
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by elephant » 10/03/12, 12:32

Yeah, but on the other hand, it avoids going nuclear.

Apart from hiring the 40.000 Indians to pedal on magnetos (which would only be 3 MW taking turns in 3 breaks)
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by highfly-addict » 10/03/12, 13:28

elephant wrote:Yeah, but on the other hand, it avoids going nuclear.

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As if "growth" was compulsory, indispensable, unavoidable ....

With this kind of paradigm, indeed, we are screwed up.
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by bidouille23 » 10/03/12, 14:24

Entirely in agreement with hightflyaddict, moreover we have spoken about Co2 and the project will drown 400 hectares of primary forest.
Hello the increase of the greenhouse effect under the pretext of bringing more electricity, to produce more therefore without a doubt pollute more (and work more to earn more : Evil: ).

the irony in all this is that it is the chef who only cries but we should do the same because we will all pay the price.

It is a project that has been postponed for a long time, unfortunately it is born, we can also be sad and cry.
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by Christophe » 10/03/12, 15:08

highflyaddict wrote:As if "growth" was compulsory, indispensable, unavoidable ....


En paraglider it (altitude growth) is still strongly recommended, otherwise we do not have too much fun ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by chatelot16 » 10/03/12, 15:29

we can criticize the large dams that flood everything without being against hydraulic power

why flood such surfaces?

we would recover the same power with a series of small dams along the natural course of the river

flooding a valley is good when you need a reservoir, because you only have a small flow: barage in the alps and the pyrenees

but when you have a large flow, power stations running over the water are enough: as on the rhone ... we did not make a big dam in marseille to flood until lyon! we only did well placed dam along the rhone

Another remark, almost no river in France has a natural course ... it jumps from reach to reach with dams and mills that date from the Middle Ages ... even if some mill has disappeared, we have continued to maintain dam to keep large bodies of water instead of a small stream at the bottom of a large empty bed

in brazil also it is possible that a large number of small dams and electrical plants are better: small dams can be bypassed by a lock: the bodies of water are improvements in navigation ... these are ecological changes but no disaster
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by netshaman » 10/03/12, 16:14

why flood such surfaces?


It's very simple, out of pure vanity: "You saw it is me who has the biggest!"
Classic: the pyramids of Egypt, the world trade center, the Taipei tower in Taiwan etc ...
Same story, just to be seen!
What pride is pathetic, and during this time people are starving ...
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by moinsdewatt » 15/08/12, 11:00

200 Indians from the Amazon occupy the Belo Monte dam site.

June 29, 2012

Amazon Indians occupy Belo Monte dam site


An estimated 200 indigenous people from Brazil's Amazon region have occupied a work area at the Belo Monte dam construction site, at least partially halting work on the controversial mega project on the Xingu river.

The indigenous people are from at least four tribes - the Xikrin, Juruna, Parakana and Araras - and are protesting against what they say is the negative effects of the construction.

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They say the construction runoff is muddying the waters and drying up parts of the river they use to fish.

They are also upset that mitigation projects or compensation promised to the indigenous people by the builders to minimize effects of the construction have been slow to materialize.

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The builders have halted work on the part of the dam that is being occupied by the indigenous people, but say work continues unabated in other areas. (The construction site is so big it's divided up into multiple work sites).

According to a local federal prosecutor, the builders' judicial request to have the Indians removed by force by police was rejected by a federal judge over the weekend.

The Belo Monte Dam is the most controversial construction project in Brazil. It is scheduled to cost roughly $ 14bn, and the first turbine is expected to be operational by February 2015.

When completed, the dam will be the third largest in the world.

The Brazilian government says Belo Monte will provide much needed energy at minimal environmental impact. They also argue that hydroelectric dams are clean energy.

But environmentalists have said for years the social impacts - displacement of thousands of people, mostly indigenous people - not to mention environmental damage, are far worse than any potential benefits.

The dam, which was first proposed in the 1970s, has gone through numerous judicial and environmental injunctions in the past couple years. But with most of the hurdles seemingly passed last year, construction on the dam began in July 2011.

The construction ramped up in January this year.

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http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/america ... e-dam-site
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