Y. Arthus-Bertrand and the Qatar football world cup

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Re: Y. Arthus-Bertrand and the FIFA World Cup in Qatar




by Remundo » 13/12/22, 15:28

you tell us mysterious things. Develop, figure, explain to us.
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by Christophe » 13/12/22, 15:42

Can ethanol be synthesized from petroleum? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

I assume so! 8)
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by Remundo » 13/12/22, 17:26

"oil" means everything and nothing

yes it is possible with more or less work, but not too energy efficient.

From ethylene, for example, by hydration in an acid medium; C2H4+ H2O : Arrow: CH3-CH2-OH

from longer chains, it's complicated, you have to thermocracker in CO + H2 followed by a catalytic synthesis.
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/12/22, 19:01

Remundo wrote:yes yes, especially since France is a net exporter of ethanol...
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so I don't know if I'm right, but I base myself on something other than lyricism to support my remarks.

What would be interesting is to have the details of the "500.000t of oil saved per year".
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by Macro » 13/12/22, 19:28

Remundo wrote:you tell us mysterious things. Develop, figure, explain to us.


Dutch trucks that come to deliver the booze in central France.... For example... Magnificent carbon footprint... Rotterdam Tours about 650 km at 40l/100 to deliver 30l of ethanol from Mexico : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy: ...
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/12/22, 19:32

izentrop wrote: and then it is not with beets that we make the most bioethanol

That's correct, but the numbers have changed. Today it's ladle 25% beets, 35% wheat and 30% corn, 10% the rest.
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by Macro » 13/12/22, 19:37

Potato... They forgot the potato...
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/12/22, 19:44

Macro wrote:Potato... They forgot the potato...


It's possible, the figures I quoted are from 2019, there may have been potatoes introduced from or elsewhere than in France.
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by Macro » 13/12/22, 19:57

There are also : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

With the exponential increase in the consumption of this product in 2022...They make it with allkitfind...
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/12/22, 20:15

Macro wrote:There are also : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

I love this reference!
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