Y. Arthus-Bertrand and the Qatar football world cup

[Macro]

You're right...

[Remundo]

yes yes, especially since France is a net exporter of ethanol...

Its consumption is 468 000 m3, or roughly 0.85 x 468000 = 400 million liters.

and it produces almost a 1,7 billion liters (i.e. 4 times more).

et generates a positive trade balance of €230 million




so I don't know if I'm right, but I base myself on something other than lyricism to support my remarks.

[Christophe]

Remundo you're not wrong but in reality it's less "pink" than this graphic com!

Do you know where the ethanol industry comes from?

It's not for ecology, that's the pretext...

The reality is that it was set up to find an outlet for sugar mills in decline and agricultural overproduction. for a few years because of the social modes of sugar-free and the dictatorship of thinness... and increased yields...

So they set up, with the "coruplicity" of politicians and oil companies, the ethanol sector to keep their turnover... everything is beautiful, everything is clean...

If it were really for ecology, we would have developed biofuels with better overall efficiency...which can really compete with petroleum products...(oleaginous algae...)

[Macro]

Lyricism:
"Lyricism is a tonality, an artistic register which favors poetic expression and the exaltation of personal feelings, of passions."

Ha the sweet poetry of the various and varied certificates that I read every day...

- Ethanol sticks to my heart
-like shit
-has a tractor wheel

[izentrop]

The reality is that it was put in place to find an outlet for sugar bowls that have been losing momentum and agricultural overproduction for a few years because of the social modes of sugar-free and the dictatorship of thinness...and increase yields...

The sugar in his coffee is marginal. The reason would not rather be the competition of globalization and then it is not with beets that we make the most bioethanol

[Christophe]

And ? This does not change anything in agri-food lobbying at the origin of the ethanol sector...

[Remundo]

The French ethanol industry as a whole is positive. But all is not rosy.

Personally, I would rather ethanol be produced from biomass by syngas.

Even if it's not perfect, I much prefer 1L of E85 to 1L of Diesel or petrol from Sheikh Muhammad.

Especially since I drastically reduced my fuel consumption to 2-3L/100km

[Christophe]

Yes Remundo, but you understand for lobbyists who don't want an innovative solution, it has to be flawless!

So they go look for lice at the neighbor without looking at the shit in front of their door...

[Remundo]

Lyricism:
"Lyricism is a tonality, an artistic register which favors poetic expression and the exaltation of personal feelings, of passions."

at first I wanted to write patronize.

And then I softened by saying lyricism (which is a slippery image).

You know Macro, I like you, I know you're an excellent mechanic and a dork in life.

but don't tell me that I'm sticking my finger in the eye up to the elbow or ridicule my remarks without bringing serious arguments.

When I'm wrong, I admit it too.

Friendly.

[Macro]

Regarding fuel ethanol.... There is the official discourse and the reality on the ground.... But I practice the reality on the ground every day... Much less rosy than the official version....