Pension reform: stronger oil unions?

[bernardd]

We may be able to test the referendum soon!

http://www.referendumretraites.org

141000 signatures yesterday at 16 p.m., 157000 this morning: only 275 days left to reach the 4,4 million needed.

[bernardd]

167000 signatures around 16 p.m., i.e. 26000 signatures in 24 hours: a good rhythm!

[bamboo]

It is all well and good to promote a petition, but proposals must also be made. You did not answer the question of funding.
Who are we taxing?

[Christophe]

only 275 days left to reach the 4,4 million needed.

Necessary for ...? Have legitimacy? Sorry but internet petitions are not worth much: the same person can sign N times ...

Who is the author of this petition?

They will make a hell of a lot of money with the collected emails ... if they decide to trade or other propaganda tools:

http://www.who.is/whois/referendumretraites.org/

= not much, it's anonymized just a name:

Name: Xavier Frison

We have more info with DNS:

Name Servers:
dns.sudeducation.org
karl.globenet.org

So it looks like it's a union behind ... but it remains unclear to say the least ...

The contact gives a gmail account without any name ...

It's a joke !!

ps: indy49 if the unions knew how to count just, it would be ...

[bamboo]

ps: indy49 if the unions knew how to count just, it would be ...

Unions, no (we saw this with xaveco and its union sources ), but Bernard seems to me a little stronger in math.

[bernardd]

only 275 days left to reach the 4,4 million needed.

Necessary for ...? Have legitimacy? Sorry but internet petitions are not worth much: the same person can sign N times ...

Did you read the call 4,4M signatures, this is the number set by the French constitution to launch a popular initiative referendum.

http://www.referendumretraites.org/spip.php?article1

Who is the author of this petition?

http://www.who.is/whois/referendumretraites.org/

= not much, it's anonymized just a name:

Name: Xavier Frison

It is however written: it is the politis newspaper which launched this petition to obtain a referendum.

Do you know google?
Xavier Frison - Politis
Nov. 18, 2010 ... Editorial design: Xavier Frison - Graphic design: Cyrille Le Floch, with Clémence Knaebel - Sound design: Cédric Boit ...
www.politis.fr/_Xavier-Frison,2_.html - Similar pages

We have more info with DNS:

Name Servers:
dns.sudeducation.org
karl.globenet.org

So it looks like it's a union behind ... but it remains unclear to say the least ...
The contact gives a gmail account without any name ...
It's a joke !!

et

They will make a hell of a lot of money with the collected emails ... if they decide to trade or other propaganda tools:

There you get really heavy, it's defamation.

http://www.globenet.org/ is transparent, it is one of the only associative hosts in France, in the same spirit as http://www.fdn.org/

ie the only ones to have launched a recourse to the council of state against hadopi,

and also the only ones to have refused the logs of the emails, which go against freedom.

They are part of the organizers of the World Free Software Meetings.

And if you don't know Benjamin Bayart, who is one of the defenders of free internet in France, and find out a bit :-)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Bayart

Obviously, the launch of the site http://www.referendumretraites.org/ was done hard on November 13: they did not anticipate success, more than 26000 signatures per day, and the pace is continuing: 187615 at this time.

When I say “hard”, it's an image, because 26000 signatures per day is a real performance. And they learned, it seems: 2 day outage according to http://www.referendumretraites.org/spip.php?article35

[bernardd]

191623 around 16 p.m., against 167000 yesterday around the same time: 24000 signatures in 1 day

[bamboo]

191623 around 16 p.m., against 167000 yesterday around the same time: 24000 signatures in 1 day

Great. And how many funding proposals?
I find it strange that you are studying this fundamental question.

[bernardd]

The 200 signatures exceeded last night!

But they have to do maintenance, not easy to bear this load!

[Christophe]

Rebelote?

https://www.econologie.com/loi-travail-e ... e-massive/

A cool slogan I just found: Oil stronger than banners !!