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by Targol » 12/09/06, 14:00

Paldeolien wrote:I have nothing to do with those who preach PPDA and TF1, they are idiots, that's all ...


Paldeolien wrote:This creates a psychological disorder for the person who has no balls.


You know, Paldeolien, avoiding vulgarity in your messages will not make them less interesting, on the contrary : Wink:
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by Christophe » 12/09/06, 15:04

Targol wrote:You know, Paldeolien, avoiding vulgarity in your messages will not make them less interesting, on the contrary : Wink:


And above all you discredit us all ... as well as econology in general, which will pass at best for deconology at worst for a sect ...
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by gegyx » 12/09/06, 16:33

Ok with you Targol for your remark on the form.
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Hello Paldeolian. Your link on the image of the dead is useful. Because they are the final signature of Western morality. To approve interventionist adventures is also to approve such consequences ...
I had been deeply impressed by a movie during the Gulf premiere. At the beginning of the bombings on Kuwait, Iraqi soldiers retreated to the Iraqi border. In the trucks, the lands, there were stolen loot, but also, a lot of Kuwaiti hostages. It was the rout, the saves that can. A bombing at a suitable place, blocked the way back, and it was a shambles, a monster traffic jam; vehicles trying to get everything taken on the sides. A concentrated gathering, in a circular space of 500m, a magnificent target to test an Air-Fuel bomb of nearly 10 tons ... Big heat and oxygen disappears The report showed that everything had grilled instantly on the spot. Charred bodies, in the skeleton state, were still driving vehicles ...
Ahurissant! And it was only the power of an oil bomb ...
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Denis your remark on a precise calculation for an effective impact to the collapse does not hold. Both towers were struck at different heights. The penetrations of the planes were oblique, so not breaking the central well that was the frame of the tower.
Some of the kerosene may have entered this well and fed the fire. With an impact and a fire on the side, the buildings would never have fallen perfectly vertically.
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The missile seems to be a drone (small plane, which we see the little wing tip on the photo camera), American technology, to drill 5 walls in a row, to 5m height, and finish at 2m; the trajectory were flush with the ground; impossible for an airliner, as high as the entire building, which should have avoided roads and lampposts on its last trajectory.
So sophisticated military equipment of the US Army. If it was a revenge of former soldiers who hijacked a drone, the previous events would not have taken place, the explanations and the consequences would not have been the same.
So a conspiracy of a hard core of "neocons", who have scaffolded only the potential benefits of these actions. Part of chess game, but where the rules are diverted, and humanity a derisory value.
Now, after checking for yourself on the footage, and the unfolding, then the implausible official explanation, if you accept the assumption of a voluntary military act against the Pentagon, then, the 4 hijackings, and the destruction of the towers, preceding it, can only be connected and interdependent. Given the sophistication of the actions, they are all elaborated by the same intelligence ...
If we find passports, or slates of "terrorists" Al Qaeda, and even post-mortem documentaries on the preparation, there is only fabrication and misappropriation of information.
There is probably a manipulation of a group of exalted: $ secret services, transiting through Pakistan, flying schools in the US for Kamikaze apprentices, real "nickel-plated feet"; puppets manipulated by a diabolic superior entity.
If you're not convinced, looking back, just ask yourself the question:
"Who benefits from the crime? "

The Bush administration has had full powers.
Military budgets and special services, in decline, have exploded.
New laws coercive and liberticidal were voted in the emotion. Afghanistan has been invaded. The US arrogates to itself the right, without UN agreement, to intervene everywhere and whenever they wish, anywhere on the planet, when their interests are threatened by indefinable terrorists.
In the process, we finish the work of Papa, attacking Iraq, to ​​seize energy resources.
At the same time one infiltrates all the states in the south of Russia with the blows of $; NATO is joining the former East European countries to further marginalize Russia.
To get re-elected, he takes the opportunity to have voting machines installed by "friendly" companies, which allow a non-controllable vote after the fact ...
We are trying to hit Iran to perfect the business.
So, who benefits from the crime?
Certainly not in the Muslim world.

Our governments are not fooled by these maneuvers. Unfortunately, they tend to go in the same direction, because they found that the bigger the lies, and the more it happens ... Why not do the same? (With a little more humanity).
Hand put and control of all the media. Orchestration of insecurity, threats. Manipulation, and scheduling of the various daily events, in order to pass new binding laws, to stay in power, to enrich oneself.

The people who accept the official explanations, accept the liberticidal, financial and social restrictions.
He accepts a progressive enslavement.

The manipulators are not going to stop there, since it works so well ... Liquid explosives supposed for the planes, and it's going to be systematic checks in everyday life.
Bush himself admits that the battle against terrorism is not over ... Oh? After 3 wars and annexation of countries? Thousands of deaths and miseries? A straw…
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by Targol » 12/09/06, 17:09

Totally agree with you, Gegeyx.

Moreover, on this subject, I heard, yesterday, a sentence on France-infos (which one can not really describe as dissenting radio) which stuck me. I do not remember the exact words, but the meaning was as follows:
France FactsIs Osama bin Laden's research still the number one priority for 1 GIs in Afghanistan?
One may ask. Afganistan is located in a strategic location for the USA. Indeed, this country is located between Pakistan (the largest Muslim country to have the nuclear bomb) and Iran. If the GIs find bin Laden, we can imagine that they will have no more justification to stay ...
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by Christophe » 12/09/06, 17:10

Bin Laden can not be found because it would be better to search for Hollywood ... : Cheesy:

ps: last night on Arte (late from 23h) there was the broadcast of 11 short films about the 11 september.

Some were really very interesting (special mention for that of England comparing the 11 September and what followed the American policy in Chile), it is especially the difference of the visions of the event according to the nationality, the culture or the religion of the director who is interesting ....
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by delnoram » 12/09/06, 19:19

Targol wrote:Totally agree with you, Gegeyx.

Yet the E is not next to the Y on a keyboard: D

Targol wrote:Moreover, on this subject, I heard, yesterday, a sentence on France-infos (which one can not really describe as dissenting radio) which stuck me. I do not remember the exact words, but the meaning was as follows:


You sometimes know about France info you can hear an info that you will not hear later if not in a watered down way.
It is quite possible that since it is a permanent news radio,
some journalists have the possibility of placing the said information before it is "" "corrected" "".

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by delnoram » 12/09/06, 19:53

gegyx wrote:"Who benefits from the crime? "

The Bush administration has had full powers.
Military budgets and special services, in decline, have exploded.
New laws coercive and liberticidal were voted in the emotion. Afghanistan has been invaded. The US arrogates to itself the right, without UN agreement, to intervene everywhere and whenever they wish, anywhere on the planet, when their interests are threatened by indefinable terrorists.
In the process, we finish the work of Papa, attacking Iraq, to ​​seize energy resources.
At the same time one infiltrates all the states in the south of Russia with the blows of $; NATO is joining the former East European countries to further marginalize Russia.
To get re-elected, he takes the opportunity to have voting machines installed by "friendly" companies, which allow a non-controllable vote after the fact ...
We are trying to hit Iran to perfect the business.
So, who benefits from the crime?
Certainly not in the Muslim world.


Who benefits from the crime:
This is the question that must be asked, Bush in it is an active pawn certe but placed where it is, it is only a fuse.
others are the real decision-makers (cheney among others).
Certainly not in the Muslim world.
Not of course, but bin Laden and his lieutenants have an interest in them,
get hold of the Muslim world.
That there is conspiracy 2 group together, I do not think, but there is better and worse, a conjunction of common interests:
The American secret service apparently knew about the attacks, rather than stopping them, why not add a layer, help the towers to collapse ect ........
All this to then try to take all the cover each on their side.
This is obviously only a hypothesis.
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by Former Oceano » 13/09/06, 23:12

In addition the towers were bought 6 months before. The top we change the teams, we have all the freedom to put the charges. And what was in the rubble? Asbestos ... As the 2 tours were insured and we were refunded, we can say that it was more profitable to blow them up than to dismantle them. It is necessary to see the secondary deaths due to the poisonings with the dust.

It should have done the same with the college of Jussieu ... : Evil: Drop the Concorde on it, say it was an attack and hop we would have cleared everything, it would have been cheaper and faster than an as yet unmodified asbestos removal.

Flute! I forgot, the college of Jussieu is a public institution and not private as the WTC, and the lobby in France are not ink as powerful (I hope : Lol: ) ...
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by Woodcutter » 14/09/06, 10:41

elephant wrote:[..]
the metallic structures have melted, and it is the overgrowth by its weights that has crushed the whole. Some tens of m + low it would have been too solid, besides the 1er attempts (bomb on the pillar of the basement) failed. The higher the harm would have been done but, there was not enough weight to make it collapse!
it was calculated very precisely by whom ????


Al quaida is still a big organization that has taken all his time: this calculation should not be very difficult for an engineer. [...]
Moreover, bin Laden (if he has something to do with it ...) had a big box TP ... There are engineers who know how to build buildings, right?

It's fun, we find on some posts a tone and turns that we saw less often ... : roll:
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by Christophe » 14/09/06, 11:04

former oceanic wrote: it would have been cheaper and faster than an as yet unmodified asbestos removal.


It's humor your remark but go tell that to the "sacrificed" of 9/11 ...
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