Tricastin Socatri nuclear accident, uranium leak 360kg?

[Woodcutter]

[...] (this is not complimentary for the excrements which are useful & do not pollute!) [...]

This is not true when we concentrate them => sewer collectors ...

[Lietseu]

Of course, my dear Bucheron, the dewatering system, if it is practical, should never have been conceived without having from the beginning, installed a septic tank all water of good capacity, which releases only water already full of small bacteria that will help digest the remaining junk ... But this is not my hobby of predilection, I leave the subject to specialists.


Greetings from Lietseu

[jonule]

Well, the sewer collectors normally go to the purification stations, no?
it is true the sludge is sometimes resold cheap to farmers to be spread in the open field, without knowing what they contain, it is the case near us with hatcheries where one wants to spread the mud of Paris! all chemical crap should be spread ... for the feast of our plates of course!



it is dilution in the environment, "that is to say us"; he will have to remember that.

Another example on the Tricastin site, a mound of waste content from 1970, 1998 until they poured to dilute Radioactivity in water ... napeps groundwater that fed well on riparian .. .

"oh well, we thought that nobody drank bran water anymore then, since running water in 40" (alros we know that today everyone buys bottled drinking water, 60 years old after).

dilute in water ... where do these radioelements end?
in "perfect" dilution, the WHO accepts a dose of uranium per liter, according to it "harmless"?
NO: only based on a scientific technical report and thus probabilistic, not to say random, since observations made since the heap bombs hiroshima and nagasaki ...

So we can say: WHO cotonne the nuclear lobby (see 1949's charter seems to me it): for our good at all?

PS: another point of example: if during a nuclear accident, we "wash with plenty of water" (this is the technique used) everyone, trucks etc: where does the washing water end? should it be stored for millions of years without touching it? where to store it then?
or dilute it? in what ? in seawater? or exactly ? how to be sure of perfect dilution in prescribed dosages of WHO? Oh no, there is no human in the bottom of the sea am I stupid.



> I find it difficult to conceive of the practices of this kind of risk: this technology seems to pose too many problems, both on a human and technical level.

[Lietseu]

We agree, as usual

we always come back to the same idea ...

Before we begin, our ancestors should have thought before acting

BUT THEY HAVE NOT DONE !!!

QED

30% more cancer this year, how much next year?

[jonule]

I think that our "ancestors", to name them thus, had thought well ... but they must have badly educated their offspring, to name them thus

[Lietseu]

I was talking about his "ancestors" who are at the origin of the mechanized and "so-called scientific" world ...

No, I do not attack Science as such, but the way it is taught, learned, understood and the result of what products, because without consciousness, there is no science!

in other words, science without conscience is only ruin of the soul (and all the rest ...) do you doubt it ???

Greetings from Lietseu

[Woodcutter]

Well, the sewer collectors normally go to the purification stations not? [...]

In a perfect world, surely ...

In reality, this is not always the case.


My point is to underline that the amalgam "shit = useful and not polluting" is not really true, especially with the oraganization of our current societies!

[jonule]

finally the essential!

The Dauphiné Libéré - 13 November 2008

Tricastin: where is the study on cancers?


"You remember that an epidemiological study was requested on the Tricastin area. It should begin before the end of the year, for a rendering in March 2009 "said Jean-Louis Borloo Benoîtement, the Minister of the Environment, last Friday. A scoop ? Not really.
The study? A local initiative

Because the famous epidemiological study, recommended at the public inquiry on Georges Besse II and recorded in March 2007, was torn off by environmental associations like Frapna and thanks to the support of the General Council of Drôme.
It is therefore a local initiative that this study, very opportunely picked up by the Minister ... A study on cancers in the Tricastin area will therefore take place. On November 21, Cigeet (information commission for major energy equipment in Tricastin) should validate the call for tenders for the research firm. "Finally", one might say. Because it took a long time for the commission - made up of representatives of the Nuclear Safety Authority, Frapna, DDASS, the League against cancer - responsible for drawing up the specifications for this study, to to agree.
Finally, it was therefore decided to conduct a morbidity (number of cancers) and mortality study over an area of ​​approximately 10 km around the site. "We would have liked to extend the study to the whole of Drôme, which ASN refused, arguing that it was not a question of establishing" a cancer registry ", but it is nevertheless good of what it is ”explains Michèle Rivasi, who was not yet the vice-president of the Department in charge of the environment but the expert with FRAPNA.
This first phase is budgeted and will be financed jointly by the ASN (State) and the General Council.

"It's very good that we have Borloo's approval," says Michèle Rivasi, "but we definitely want to keep the project management. If it is the state, he will delegate to organizations, such as the Institute of Health Surveillance, which have never done anything. The proof is that since 20 years, there are people who drink contaminated water - as the Socatri incident has shown - nothing has been done. "
Take an interest in the course, both professional and residential

After the observation, the explanations.
This is the other important point of the study which for the moment is not recorded. "When we see areas with aggregates (accumulation of cancer), it is imperative that we are interested in the course, both professional and residential, people to know if one day or other they have been in contact with chemicals or nuclear. The finding otherwise will be useless "insists Michèle Rivasi.

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Saturday November 29 2008

Join the national action day
"Neither nuclear nor greenhouse effect"

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