Tricastin Socatri nuclear accident, uranium leak 360kg?

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by Leo Maximus » 25/08/08, 14:01

jonule wrote:France's gas does not pollute in the same way ...

The artcile says "A small uranium leak has been detected" ..... whether it is 360 kg over one day or 250 g per year for 10 years does not matter: in both cases it is contamination, the radioactivity will one day or another end up on our plate ... and comes only from the nuclear power industry lobby EDF AREVA.

today uranium, plutonium tomorrow (it is already there), what do the residents think? they always water the garden with the water of the well?

polluter pays ?

> in what do you think they would have to invest? in a biogas cogeneration, for example?

Plutonium is already present in the atmosphere, the document F.98 of the Radiation Protection Committee of EDF estimates at 5 tons the amount of plutonium spread in thirty years by atomic aerial tests. Only a few percent of the plutonium bombs fission and transforms into transplutonians, the rest is volatilized into the atmosphere.

I had spoken in July of the wine appellation "Coteaux du Tricastin", it was visible on the shelves of supermarkets that it was no longer sold. Now the appellation has completely disappeared from the shelves and the producers of Coteaux du Tricastin want to change their name: http://www.lesechos.fr/info/agro/4753256.htm. The scandal in this is that the name "Tricaste or Tricastin" dates back to the Middle Ages, it is cited by Nostradamus or the Marquise de Sévigné, and if there is a name to change it is that of the plant. EDF.
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by jonule » 25/08/08, 14:12

about leaks ... luckily the SORTIR DU NUCLEAIRE network requested an audit of the site following the "declared" leaks, eh Christophe?
otherwise who else would have asked him? the ASN?

I ask: who to trust?

http://www.greenpeace.fr/stop-plutonium ... anium.php3
The treatment of depleted uranium

Before enrichment, uranium (imported at 100% today) undergoes various transformations. The main ones are:
- conversion at the Comurhex plant near Narbonne of uranium (yellow cake) paste into uranium tetrafluoride (UF4),
- then at the Comurhex plant in Pierrelatte the conversion of UF4 to UF6, the form in which the uranium is enriched at the Eurodif plant in Pierrelatte.

The depleted uranium thus comes out of enrichment in UF6 form. This form is particularly unstable.

"Comurhex Pierrelatte specializes in transforming the uranium necessary for the operation of the nuclear fleet. The site produces uranium hexafluoride, essential for enrichment processes."


hexafluoride ...
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexafluorure_d'uranium

it is therefore enrichment of uranium, which produces depleted uranium as dirt, BUT NOT THAT!
so when we say nuclear, we must know that the entire industry related to the preparation of fuel, pollutes the environment.

Another remark: France is dependent on 100% of imported uranium, energy independence was just a pretext ...

what info?

According to Wise-Paris ** in 2001 2 165 Eurodif has produced tons of enriched UF6 from 18 194 tonnes of natural UF6 provided by Comhurex Pierrelatte. According to the documentation AREVA production 1 kg of enriched uranium from 8 kg of natural uranium corresponds to UTS 5 and 900 MW reactor consumes 100 000 SWU annually.
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little reminder of radioactive 2008 summer:
7 JULY
Large leak of uranium (75 kg) in two rivers adjacent to the nuclear site following an overflow of a tank in the enclosure of the Socatri plant, on the site of Tricastin.
17 JULY
A leak is detected on a defective pipeline carrying radioactive effluents and uranium to the Franco-Belgian fuel fabrication (FBFC) in Romans-sur-Isère.
23 JULY
About a hundred people were "slightly contaminated" during an intervention on reactor n ° 4 of the EDF-Tricastin nuclear power plant.
6 AUGUST
An anomaly when opening a package on the Socatri plant results in radioactive releases into the atmosphere.


little game: know how to answer these questions:
- what happens to the waste of enrichment, where are they supposed to go? The public meetings having been organized in the communes located around the nuclear site of Tricastin, the contradictory debate was not accessible to the inhabitants of Limousin. This deficiency of the file will have gone unnoticed while 7 kg of DU are produced per kg of enriched uranium!
- Where to store depleted uranium? On the spot ? On some mining site owned by COGEMA?
- Where will the fluorite barrels from the defluorination of the depleted U, containing uranium, go? On which public dump?


and many others ...

we now see that as soon as there is a release into the environment, the lobby speaks of "kilogram of uranium" as equivalent, a bit like "ton of carbon" to talk about CO2 ... but in fact behind all that there are many other compounds, + or - detectable, and much more horrible ... the tricastin leak would therefore be, according to its detractors, "uranium effluents" comprising "kilograms of uranium", but that would be good from fluorite to uranium .... beuark

http://www.wise-paris.org/index_f.html? ... ndeau.html


plutonium (Pluto, God of hell) did not exist on earth, it was created by EDF ...
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by gegyx » 29/08/08, 23:39

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Oh ! The Belgians ! You sleep ?

http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/sciences/enviro ... ieux-.html

Seen at 20h fr2.
No luck, for the population it is already a week.
Prohibition to consume vegetables from the garden.
(for composting, it's like I said)

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And so much to do! With Iter, we will pollute the Verdon one day ...

http://www.jp-petit.org/science/ITER/iter1.htm#29_8_08

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by delnoram » 29/08/08, 23:54

hush !!! Gegyx, you're going to wake up Christine : Evil:
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https://www.econologie.com/forums/post93085.html#93085
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by Christophe » 29/08/08, 23:59

Ah thin I was not aware ... shame :)

I ate lots of strawberries and beans from the garden !! Is this serious doc? (we are not in the offending zone, I "reassure" you ...)

Jonule is my last WARNING: the next post or you do not quote when you make copied / pasted and you crazy images that distorts the forums because hosted elsewhere jte the censorship WITHOUT ANY SUMMARY! The message also applies to other moderators please!
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by jonule » 01/09/08, 10:46

and what is the offending area? is there a map?
I am curious to consult it, can we? where?
Wind chart, do you have an windsock? measurement tags?

good.
if not I relay the information for the PUBLIC GOOD (put at bad these times):

"it's coming back"! again and again ... radionuclides are among us ... yet they already warned us several years ago.

Belgium, Spain, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Ukraine, France ...
Europe hit by nuclear accidents

Prohibition today to consume vegetables and milk in Fleurus in Belgium!


France, which has spent a very radioactive summer with multiple events especially in Tricastin, is far from the only country in Europe hit by nuclear incidents and accidents. Large-scale scandals are even now in some countries.

In Belgium, an 3 level accident occurred on August 24 at the Institute of Radioelements (IRE) of Fleurus. As usual when it comes to nuclear, the warning was given late, the consequences were first minimized by the Belgian Federal Agency for Nuclear Control (FANC), but we learn today that the radioactive leak is more important than announced at the beginning and that the consumption of the vegetables of the garden and the milk is now forbidden, while awaiting perhaps new revelations ...

In Spain, a major fire broke out, also the 24 August, at the Vandellos II nuclear power plant (Catalonia), which has since been shut down. Around 30 incidents have occurred since the beginning of the year in Spanish power stations. Last April, it was learned that a radioactive leak had occurred 6 months earlier (!) At the Asco I plant (Catalonia) whose operator incurs heavy penalties.

In Germany in Asse, the population learned at the end of June that a large-scale contamination had been underway for years in a salt mine where 126 barrels of nuclear waste were stored. The mine was presented as "stable for 000 million years" and "almost impermeable", but the waste is now bathing in a veritable underground lake whose contamination threatens large water tables.

In Austria, an incident occurred on the night of 2 at August 3 in the laboratories of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), at 35 km from Vienna. It is only fortunately that a serious accident has not occurred.

In Ukraine, a radioactive water leak caused the shutdown of a reactor at the Rivné nuclear power plant (western Ukraine) on June 10.

In Slovenia, a radioactive leak on the 4 June at the Krsko NPP resulted in a European alert (the 26 other EU countries were contacted urgently) before the gravity of the situation was minimized, without anyone really know what happened.

France, finally, was hit this summer by multiple incidents at the Socatri-Areva (Bollène, Vaucluse, serious leak of uranium on July 7), the FBFC-Areva (Romans-sur-Isere, Drôme, discovered the 18 July of contaminations by a broken line for years), at the EDF nuclear power plant in Tricastin (Drôme, 100 employees contaminated 23 July) and in that of St-Alban (Isère, 15 employees contaminated the 20 July), again at the Socatri-Areva (admitted August 6 illegal discharges for weeks 14 radioactive carbon) and the Comurhex-Areva (Pierrelatte, Drôme, admits the August 21 contaminations by a pipeline broken also for years).

The "Quitting Nuclear" Network calls on international public opinion to become aware of the seriousness of the contaminations already caused by the nuclear industry, and of the possible imminence of a real nuclear disaster, the consequences of which would be immeasurable. We must not trust the various "safety authorities", who help to hide the truth, and we must shut down nuclear installations before the worst happens.


is it quoted like that?
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by jonule » 01/09/08, 10:51

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so if you know what you want, be proud of yourself later for telling people what's really going on and not theoretically ... it does not take that long to do it.
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by Christine » 01/10/08, 17:52

"There if I am there" the modest and brilliant program, devoted 2 hours of report to the tricastin.

"Nothing happened in Tricastin!", 1st part listenable there:
http://www.la-bas.org/article.php3?id_article=1509

and the 2eme part:
http://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/em/labassijysuis/
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by jonule » 12/11/08, 15:40

AFP - 07.11.08 - An epidemiological study will be launched around the nuclear site of Tricastin where a series of incidents occurred this summer, said Friday the Minister of Ecology, Jean-Louis Borloo. The study, whose principle was arrested in March 2007, will consist initially to perform a descriptive study of mortality and morbidity data (diseases), then to an analytical study if causal links are suspected.

"You remember that we had requested an epidemiological study on the Tricastin site; the specifications are being finalized, the budgetary credits are available", declared Jean-Louis Borloo on the occasion of the handing over of a report on the radioecological monitoring of water around nuclear power plants and the management of former storage sites for radioactive sites. The minister added that he hoped this study would start around Christmas. The first results are expected at the end of the first half of 2009, we told the Ministry of Ecology.

In Germany, a late 2007 study found that children under five years old living within 5 km of a nuclear power plant have a higher 60% risk of getting cancer. This risk is even increased by 117% in the case of leukemias, according to this study. German Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel, however, pointed out that the current state of scientific knowledge does not explain the abnormally high cancer rate caused by reactor radiation, suggesting that other factors could Being guilty.

The population close to the Tricastin site has long been exposed to the presence of radio-elements related to the nuclear industry. In addition to a recent radioactive liquid leak at Socatri, a subcontractor of Areva, the neighboring Pierrelatte site hosts a "mound" of waste containing uranium and toxic chemicals stored between 1969 and 1976. 'a cover for this storage, recommended in a report dating from 1998, has still not been achieved, according to a report published on Friday by the High Committee for Transparency and Information on Nuclear Security.


The ETBS de Bourges would have stored several waste in Tricastin:
TECHNICAL ESTABLISHMENT OF BOURGES
Subject: Testing and production of weapons
Location: Bourges (Cher)
Operator: General Delegation for Armaments
Materials handled: depleted uranium
Between 1990 and 2000 the Establishment conducted about 14 000 shelling depleted uranium - shells 105 mm (for the tank AMX30 B2) and shells 120 mm (arrow shells). Each shell contains 3 at 5 kg depleted uranium. The shots were fired in a shooting range between Avord and Crosses, twenty kilometers from Bourges. The specific firing position for depleted uranium ammunition is called LTAC2. The director of ETBS has indicated that further DU shots could be fired. The CFDT Cher of institutions and arsenals of state has requested an epidemiological and environmental study [New 11.i.01; Berry 11.i.01].

Andra's inventories list depleted uranium waste stored at the facility. According to the 1998 inventory, among this waste was 206 kg of pieces of arrows (2.7 GBq); about 120 t various scrap metal (targets, tools, shielding), about 2500 m3 of embankments (earth and rubble) from old firing sites; and 8 filter drums. Andra's 2000 inventory cites only metal scrap (2 GBq) and miscellaneous waste (earth, rubble, debris, 8 GBq), all contaminated with depleted uranium. The waste is in a military zone whose access is regulated [Andra 00]. Socatri in Bollène stores 312,4 t of solid waste treated on behalf of ETBS.

The Socatri in Bollène stores 312,4 t solid waste and 295,2 t steels (TFA) processed on behalf of ETBS. They are all contaminated with uranium.
Solid waste is awaiting shipment to Andra, but the steel outlet is under study [Andra 00].


source:
http://www.francenuc.org/fr_sites/cen_etab_f.htm

element of investigation?
especially a proof of contamination and dissemination in a wide range of the environment, not to mention that at the end of the rhone there is the sea and the beach, then the fish ...
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by Lietseu » 12/11/08, 16:49

Sweet France, beautiful country of my childhood ... tsoin, tsoin, ...

I kept you in my heart ... : Shock:

at each visit we take a dose so, but not only good time, also radiation of any kind .....

What was I still saying on the other thread? that the nuke was SHIT, I think (this is not complimentary for the excrements which are useful & do not pollute!)

Lietseu's cuckoo :P
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