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Re: Make fewer children: the new green gesture?




by Janic » 24/10/18, 16:18

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the "Judeo-Christian morality" it's all right
Resurgence of primary anti-leukemia! There is no Christian morality, neither Jew nor Buddhist, there is only universal morality.

Let us stop acting in the name of a morality or a god and the world will be better off.
that one you could not miss : Twisted:
If you kill, steal, rape, you find that good, see desirable? In case you want to improve your intellectual baggage:
moral:
Regarding the rules or principles of conduct, the search for an ideal good, individual or collective, in a given society.

http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/morale
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by Remundo » 24/10/18, 16:51

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Let them beware also of the soul of roots and herbs. It's alive to pamper.

Oh, the argument used up the rope. :?
Feeding plants does not take into consideration any souls, any more than the bidocheurs do, but only the biological specificity of the individual considered, whether a lion or a cow.

and what about the Lion, carnivore of his state, who takes the soul of a gazelle?

What to do with Cat, who takes the soul of a mouse?

What to do with the Wolf, who takes the soul of the cow or the sheep?
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by Janic » 24/10/18, 18:22

and what about the Lion, carnivore of his state, who takes the soul of a gazelle?
What to do with Cat, who takes the soul of a mouse?
What to do with the Wolf, who takes the soul of the cow or the sheep?

would you have read wrong? Every living being, herbivorous or carnivorous, obeys his instinct according to his biological family and the question of souls does not arise.
Besides, what do you mean by this word soul?
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by Ahmed » 24/10/18, 19:29

Let them beware also of the soul of roots and herbs. It's alive to pamper.

I will not speculate on "the soul of carrots", but from a factual point of view, the abandonment of breeding and its unfavorable transformation factor would have as a direct consequence less predation on plants. ..
As far as tigers are concerned, I do not feel responsible for their actions! : Cheesy:

Morality is inseparable from life in community and it is expressed through variants: it is not one and indivisible, it must be recognized that it fluctuates according to the times and places around a common substrate.
Is the disappearance of religions a good thing? To assimilate conflicts prior to religion is a deceptive shortcut and history proves that violence is based on existing institutions, regardless of the nature of the latter. Structural atheism is probably less effective as a potential condensation nucleus of direct violence because it is not a positive belief, but is consistent with diffuse and indirect violence; it is an adaptation to an objective / abstract vision of the World of which only series of figures could give a valid representation, failing to give it a meaning. Thus, when the instrumentalization of the World becomes total and concerns all its categories, whether they are inert or living, by memetic contagion, each human being presents himself to the other only as an instrument that offers himself to his narcissism or opposes it. However, violence remains contained (in both senses of the term), because precisely, it is exercised powerfully through external instrumentalisation. The destruction of the world does not raise the general indignation it deserves, but rather a soft consensus, since the new social norm, the new benchmark is the techno-economism which has taken, secretly, the place of religion and irremediably devaluing nature and what it contains (therefore, also we ...).
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by Remundo » 24/10/18, 19:30

@ Janic: So the man who is omnivorous is entitled to eat meat, it seems according to your last message.
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by Ahmed » 24/10/18, 19:33

Animals mainly follow their instincts and men their crops ...
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by Janic » 24/10/18, 20:42

Janic: So the man who is omnivorous is entitled to eat meat, it seems according to your last message.
Ahmed responded perfectly
Animals mainly follow their instincts and men their crops ...
The consumption of meat is indeed of the cultural type because to be able to eat it, it must use artifices whose nature nature did not provide unlike the rest of the living world. So it is possible for him obviously, but at the expense of other ecological aspects as well as health of the populations.
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by sen-no-sen » 24/10/18, 21:04

Ahmed wrote:As far as tigers are concerned, I do not feel responsible for their actions! : Cheesy:


Does anyone have a problem with tigers? : Mrgreen:

To try to reconcile everyone we must analyze the paradoxical situation of the meat sector:The more meat is consumed, the more the number of traditional butcher shops tends to decrease...

The supermarket offensive on the sector (like so many others) led to a downward trend in profit rates leading to the use of particularly dubious methods that logically led to health scandals.
In France the consumption of red meat is decreasing since the crisis of theBovine spongiform encephalopathy ("mad cow"), which has led to increasing consumer mistrust of meat products.

The regularity of its crises to generate a trend in the decline in meat consumption since 25 years (Spanghero case, Findus etc ...)
At first glance the craze for the semi-vegetarianism and vegetarianism would be a bad omen for the meat sector ... and yet what is there? And although the sector of butcher's shop has been doing rather better for a few years.
In truth the vegetarian is the butcher's friend! A height! In fact not since the increase in meat consumption following the growth of growth over the period of thirty glorious to favor the monopolization phenomenon, that is to say the grabbing of the meat sector (among others !!!) by monopolistic groups seeking to maximize their profitability through a search for lowering costs and therefore quality.
Except the mistrust of the general public vis-à-vis the meat quality products merd..iocre to begin a reversal of the trend favoring the return, certainly shy of the butcher's shop.
So if I was a marketing strategist in butchery, I would encourage as many people as possible to become vegetarian!
We can make the same point with the automotive sector, the more we will promote public transport and purists will be able to satisfy their driving pleasures on the routes served.
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Re: Make fewer children: the new green gesture?




by Ahmed » 24/10/18, 21:39

This is what I call ambiguity: it is something rather general that makes any improvement within a system, an improvement in remedying one of its consequences, indirectly encouraging it. and involuntarily the causes.
Thus, the existence of organic meets the aspirations of those who protested against "chemical" agriculture and thus defuses their criticism (this is the "eat and shut up!" Effect); moreover, the industrialization of organic farming which results from its success reintroduces in force the faults of the conventional sector which thus takes its revenge! : Mrgreen:
Another example: a mythical energy that would be totally free from the defects of conventional energies: no CO² emissions, no toxic gases, no radio-nuclides walking, no danger of any kind to production and use and, let's measure , very cheap (or even free! 8) ) would be the worst eventuality, in the sense that nothing could limit its ability to modify / destroy the World. Especially because it would appear harmless to what psychisms fear the most, the direct effects and what they wish the most, the progress of the disaster, as a remedy to that already existing.
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Re: Make fewer children: the new green gesture?




by Remundo » 24/10/18, 22:36

Ahmed wrote:Animals mainly follow their instincts and men their crops ...

and their cultures would not come also from their instincts?
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