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Towards a reintroduction of animal meal in Europe ?!




by sen-no-sen » 27/11/12, 18:52

On July 18, the European Commission's Standing Committee on the Food Chain voted in favor of reintroducing "animal meal" from non-ruminants in fish feed. European regulations 999/2001 relating to the rules for the prevention, control and eradication of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE) and 1069/2009 concerning the exploitation of animal by-products are thus revised. France and Germany are the only EU countries to have voted against. The text should be published by the end of the year for entry into application scheduled for June 1, 2013.


http://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/news/farines-animales-pat-europe-poisson-16463.php4

Once again we see the misdeeds of the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy)!
The agricultural world will once again have to comply with the orders of the technocrats of Brussels.
In addition, it will very quickly be discussed the reintroduction of animal meal in the feed of livestock.
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by highfly-addict » 27/11/12, 20:09

At the same time, eating GMO soybeans with salmon and other sea bream bars or bream is not great either! So ....?
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by sen-no-sen » 27/11/12, 20:32

highflyaddict wrote:At the same time, eating GMO soybeans with salmon and other sea bream bars or bream is not great either! So ....?


Well, I do not know, we could for example let the animals feed on what they have always used (good I admit, it may be a bit too avant-garde for our time!)
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by highfly-addict » 27/11/12, 22:14

Ah OK ! So there's more to fish anchovy style or sardines to feed all that .....
Poor dolphins ....
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by Janic » 28/11/12, 09:23

highflyaddict hello
At the same time, eating GMO soybeans with salmon and other sea bream bars or bream is not great either! So ....?
Livestock are anyway fed corn and soy GMO, then GMO for GMO ... !!!
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by Obamot » 28/11/12, 10:11

Quite frankly, the essence of the problem is complex and we must set priorities:

- contrary to all expectations, the crisis of the "mad cow" (because the man is mad ...) has not been resolved;

- We continue to under-pay producers in the agri-food sector, and quality continues to decline in view of the growing insipidity of our food (fruits, vegetables, meat products, etc.);

- In doing so, by not paying the right price, we generally have too cheap products for an unacceptable quality in terms of nutritional quality or taste (even if more or less acceptable in terms of health).

- thus the pressure on costs means that we arrive at the same extremes as during the epizootic ... And so, it is as if our societies had learned nothing from BSE. The pressure on prices must even have worsened, hence the return of said flours in the circuit ...

- the value chains produce low quality at a lower cost, which encourages consumption - given the laws of supply and demand - and even overconsumption, even though nothing has been solved upstream and downstream, the problem of hunger has not been overcome, even in societies that always generate more and more precariousness;

- with the corollary of the explosion of costs due to the degenerative diseases that this system produces;

- faced with a (almost) total resignation of the health authorities, who should launch awareness campaigns in order to reduce our consumption of products of animal origin - and not to seduce consumers, which goes "to hunger contrary ". Said authorities, should create a favorable trend, towards those who want to get out of the animal genocidal spiral stimulated by overconsumption of meat - or more simply, who care about the QUALITY of what they eat - bad decisions which continue to cause a certain social marginality vis-à-vis those who legitimately wish to make "different choices", such as the fact of NOT (over) consuming animal products or in any case wishing to reduce their consumption while wishing a qualitative improvement of the offer (and which makes it de facto difficult for all those who would like that to change ... whatever the choice of lifestyle for which they have opted.)

It gets worse, whereas it would be better to have a fair trend in a different direction, so that consumers are encouraged to make their own choices without stimulating over / consumption of food products (whatever they are).

Since today, nothing is done to promote a food bowl "balanced acid-alkaline..."

In contrast, we see meat products that are too cheap (which encourages their consumption), and other disasters that promote all unhealthy products, acidifying the digestive transit with a lot of advertising, like the ads for sodas, or pseudo-yogurths presented almost like drugs, margarines and all those containing "TRANS" fatty acids and all the other products containing refined sugars which cause a whole procession of disorders and imbalances in terms of health , since the body must fight this excessive acidity considered as a poison, by decalcifying the organism!

When will the launch of national campaigns to reduce the consumption of animal meat products and reduce to near zero the consumption of refined white sugar?
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by highfly-addict » 28/11/12, 12:55

Janic wrote:highflyaddict hello
At the same time, eating GMO soybeans with salmon and other sea bream bars or bream is not great either! So ....?
Livestock are anyway fed corn and soy GMO, then GMO for GMO ... !!!


: Cheesy: And of course, you do not have any problem that strictly carnivorous fish are fed with plants ....
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by sen-no-sen » 28/11/12, 12:57

highflyaddict wrote:Ah OK ! So there's more to fish anchovy style or sardines to feed all that .....
Poor dolphins ....


You would not be the service pampered? : Mrgreen:
It is simple, we can feed the fish with politicians, it is a food certainly greasy but high organic, and then seen that it serves for nothing as usefully get rid of it. : Mrgreen:

More seriously, farmed fish simply does not belong, that's all.
When you see that you need 20kg of sardines (wild) to make 1kg of bluefin tuna, or will you?


Janic wrote:
Livestock are anyway fed corn and soy GMO, then GMO for GMO ... !!!

You are unfortunately right!
But OK C.Allegre to say (about GMOs):"it is not because a tiger eats a rabbit that the tiger turns into a rabbit", so I am reassured!


Obamot wrote:
faced with a (almost) total resignation of the health authorities, who should launch awareness campaigns in order to reduce our consumption of products of animal origin - and not to seduce consumers, which goes "to contrary hunger".


The health authorities now only act as "quality control", their goal is not to determine if the products are good in ecological and nutritional terms, but simply if they are edible, and that the friends of the multinationals will not go. in prison for endangering the life of others.
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by highfly-addict » 28/11/12, 14:06

sen-no-sen wrote:...
More seriously, farmed fish simply does not belong, that's all .....


In absolute terms, quite agree, but in practice, with seas that empty their wild fish, we do how :?:
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by sen-no-sen » 28/11/12, 14:36

highflyaddict wrote:
sen-no-sen wrote:...
More seriously, farmed fish simply does not belong, that's all .....


In absolute terms, quite agree, but in practice, with seas that empty their wild fish, we do how :?:


Corrigendum: Seas that we empty.


Well, let's see:
to make farmed fish, you must either:

1) Soy, Maize etc, often GMOs, which require important agricultural land, transport, pesticides etc ...
2) Meats of either wild origins (sardines and company) or animal meal from rendering (also the balance is very doubtful).

To avoid the disappointments above the solution is simple:To abandon fishing for certain fish for a period of time necessary to rebuild the stocks.

It was noticed during the Second World War, that following the sharp decrease in fishing in the North Atlantic (caused by military confrontations, presence of German U-bot etc.) the post-war years ended. , to say even the fishermen of the time, by catches "miraculous".
It would only take a few years for the fish stocks to rebuild (I did not say that we needed a third world war for that!).
As a result, more respectful and limited harvesting methods should be instituted (vegetarianism as a food dominant is desirable).
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