The age of Low-Tech - Philippe Bihouix

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

the least you can do would be to compare this figure with that of suicides before GMOs, but obviously this kind of consideration is beyond you ....

We are therefore waiting, curious and impatient, for you to provide it to us.

[Obamot]

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And “incidentally” to the widows of the said peasants to go and defend your point of view (although you risk getting shot)

And so I have another explanation, which fits perfectly with what I wrote here society-and-philosophy / an-ex-conspirator-since-she-left-t17015-40.html # p473316

You then realized, far too late, of your huge blunder, that what you had just posted was beyond comprehension, panicked you answered anything and you sink a little deeper. Because what you have just laid is inhuman, unheard of, scandalous, disgusting, despicable, insane even for someone orthotechnically infected

[Ahmed]

These unfortunate peasants are at the bottom of the economy's "food chain" and must therefore endure the predation of all the "carnivores" above them. The evils which overwhelm them are therefore numerous, since they are the stake of a commercial logic against which they have no control, not to mention the hazards specific to their condition. GMOs are actually only the most visible part, from a media point of view, which in no way exempts them, since it is a question of global strategy of which they constitute only the last stone (tomb?).

[yves35]

Hello,

These unfortunate peasants are at the bottom of the economy's "food chain" and must therefore endure the predation of all the "carnivores" above them. The evils which overwhelm them are therefore numerous, since they are the stake of a commercial logic against which they have no control, not to mention the hazards specific to their condition. GMOs are actually only the most visible part, from a media point of view, which in no way exempts them, since it is a question of global strategy of which they constitute only the last stone (tomb?).

I had the following explanation in mind: they are strangled by hallucinating usurious rates. They borrow a first time out of a bad harvest, for example to endow a girl to be married off. Have trouble repaying, re-borrowing etc ... It is more an untreated problem of maximum usurious rate and societal practices "pushing towards crime" (in fact, as in China, abortion if a female fetus is frequent because it is is a financial curse). GMOs are not the main cause.

yves

[humus]

the least you can do would be to compare this figure with that of suicides before GMOs, but obviously this kind of consideration is beyond you ....

We are therefore waiting, curious and impatient, for you to provide it to us.

Especially since there are those who commit suicide by swallowing pesticides, GMOs or not, because with the purchase of all these products, they can no longer do so.

Various reasons have been put forward to explain the suicides of farmers in India, including: floods, drought, indebtedness, use of genetically modified seeds, public health, reduced yields caused by the use of less pesticides due to investments. lesser. There is no consensus on the main causes, but studies show that suicide victims are motivated by more than one cause, on average three or more causes of suicide, the main reason being the inability to repay loans. According to Panagariya, an economist at the World Bank, "suicide is motivated about 25% of the time by agricultural-related reasons" and "studies consistently show increased indebtedness and increased reliance on informal sources of credit" among farmers who commit suicide.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicides_ ... ns_en_Inde

[humus]

I had the following explanation in mind: they are strangled by hallucinating usurious rates. They borrow a first time out of a bad harvest, for example to endow a girl to be married off. Have trouble repaying, re-borrowing etc ... It is more an untreated problem of maximum usurious rate and societal practices "pushing towards crime" (in fact, as in China, abortion if a female fetus is frequent because it is is a financial curse). GMOs are not the main cause.

Yes, with organic at least they don't go into debt to work.

[ABC2019]

There is a wikipedia article on the subject

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicides_ ... ns_en_Inde

which mentions among other things that the suicide rate among farmers in India is actually lower than that of the rest of the population.
And the curve shows no explosion of cases. We must nevertheless reduce the figures to the population of more than a billion inhabitants, mainly still rural ...

I'm not far from thinking that the outbreak of suicides is an urban legend like the disappearance of polar bears ...

[humus]

There is a wikipedia article on the subject

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicides_ ... ns_en_Inde

No kidding ? posting.php? mode = quote & f = 52 & t = 13439 & p = 473638 # pr473635

which mentions among other things that the suicide rate among farmers in India is actually lower than that of the rest of the population.

So Indian farmers commit suicide at the margins, even by extension do not commit suicide.
The phyto products which are expensive, that is not a problem because they give good harvests (or not ) and we're sure it's good for nature. (if, like sugar, asbestos, tobacco, petroleum, all that is nickel, otherwise we would be told!)
GMOs are even better because they cost more and we are linked to the supplier for the seeds and in addition we can use even more phyto products, it resists, it's great!
All this makes the agribusiness of phyto products and GMO seeds work, it's even more brilliant!
What a wonderful World !

The people who make organic break this magnificent virtuous circle, they are enemies of the system, they must be knocked out.
It's a shame they don't have phyto products to kill themselves, in the end they would have to be given some for free because they are bad citizens, they don't buy anything rotten and in addition they respect the earth, the bastards!

I would like to be a scientist like you and think like you. What school should we do?
On the other hand, I don't know if I would have the entry level

PS: The polar bear population "increases" when you consider the low point of the 70s when they were wiped out.
Otherwise compared to "before" there is much less.
Remind me of your school, so that I can rejoice like you.

[ABC2019]

There is a wikipedia article on the subject

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicides_ ... ns_en_Inde

No kidding ? posting.php? mode = quote & f = 52 & t = 13439 & p = 473638 # pr473635

which mentions among other things that the suicide rate among farmers in India is actually lower than that of the rest of the population.

So Indian farmers commit suicide at the margins, even by extension do not commit suicide.

Read again very calmly ....

[izentrop]

"Funny" that this urban legend invented by Vandana Shiva and amplified by anti-GMO activists is still running today.

... this question was popularized in the "West" by the anti-GMO movement, which takes up and disseminates the fabrications of the Indian activist Vandana Shiva ...
... the story of the introduction of GMO cotton (Bt) in India - which took place at the request of small farmers and against the government -, and which also demonstrates the total lack of connection with the issue suicides. The author shows how, by pointing out in a ritualistic and delusional way the responsibility of the great Satan Monsanto, the anti-GMOs exonerate in fact the real persons responsible for the difficulties of the peasants, namely above all the Indian bankers and the government at their service. .. https://blogs.mediapart.fr/yann-kindo/b ... de-nouveau

Moreover, there have been monster demonstrations by peasants against their government on this subject, but the activists do not care, they want at all costs to impose their intuitions based on sensational journalism.

I had already posted it: https://www.bunkerd.fr/vandana-shiva/

I expect of course the flood of insults from our anthroposophist on duty.