The age of Low-Tech - Philippe Bihouix

[yves35]

Good evening,

polyculture agriculture corresponds in my mind to what I experienced in my childhood (regrouping started when I was 11 years old ...) Farms (therefore what existed before farms) were polyculture , a little breeding (animals sold to the butcher of the village, who did the slaughter and the final cutting). The individual abatoires were closed around 1965 or 1966 and reopened temporarily in May 1968), a little grass, (not all small farms had tractors), a little wheat sold to the township flour mill, a little of poultry to sell the eggs to the grocers of the village and the autoconso.
Then the progress arrived, oil, tractor, agricultural credit, scholarships at maximum rate for the children of farmers (to anticipate the rise in agricultural productivity and provide them with another outlet).
Janco speaks many times about the consequence of the scarcity of energy: putting back the agricultural population to compensate for the work of the machines (it is not the photovoltaic or the wind turbines that will operate the tractors or the harvesters)

The consequences of the abundance of energy: emptying the countryside, lengthening the supply chains, lowering the relative cost of food (with the plethora of diseases), available and cheaper fertilizers, and especially what is in question here the specialization of regions in such or such production ... and so on ...
When energy becomes scarce, what happens to this model?

yves

[izentrop]

Let's say that I misunderstood and that Yves here was talking about the end of monocultures of trees, it would be a good thing because the solution adopted by the powerful of this world is precisely to steal the lands of the rare peoples still indigenous on our planet to exploit monocultures of trees there to continue to emit GHGs with "all impunity". An alibi that our rulers can only swallow, because they find it advantageous.

EDit: I understood correctly, Yves you were talking about agriculture, but the powerful chose to continue as before ...

Why Nature-Based Solutions won't solve the climate crisis - they will only make the rich richer. These so-called "solutions" are, for the most part, empty promises that will lead to massive violations of indigenous rights, and fail to resolve the climate crisis. By Fiore Longo.

A long explanation follows ...
To conclude:

First, many of the tree planting projects touted as a way to mitigate the effects of climate change are opting for fast-growing trees, such as eucalyptus and acacia, in order to earn money. . In reality, this can increase carbon rather than reduce it: existing vegetation must be cleared and new plantations are more susceptible to fires ...

The land in his village was taken as part of a compensatory reforestation project. In India, when forests are destroyed for reasons such as mining, the companies responsible have to contribute money to the CAMPA fund, which is spent on reforestation projects. However, forests rich in biodiversity are generally replaced by monoculture plantations, often on the lands of the Adivasi ...

Further proof that this is about money (not nature), NBS are supported and implemented by the world's largest and most polluting companies and the conservation industry as a way to avoid the radical changes that are really needed to tackle the climate crisis. Among the supporters of SfN are: Nestlé, BP, Chevron, Equinor, Total, Shell, Eni, BHP, Dow Chemical Company, Bayer, Boeing, Microsoft, Novartis, Olam, Coca-Cola, Danone, Unilever, etc. .

Yes. Compensation systems have already failed to prevent climate change. The massive expansion of these systems through Nature-based Solutions will fail even more massively. Compensation systems such as NBS should be abandoned, and governments should instead put in place real regulations on business and finance to tackle the real causes of environmental destruction: the exploitation of resources. natural resources for profit and the growing overconsumption, led by the countries of the North. We must also decolonize our approaches and stop marginalizing and silencing indigenous peoples and other local communities, who have protected our planet for generations. To do this, governments must respect, protect and fully recognize the rights of indigenous peoples and other local communities to their lands. Finally, we need a radical change in our economic structure and our way of life. The only real and fair solutions to stop climate change will come when these topics are put on the table. So far, world leaders, environmental NGOs, businesses and some climate movements in the North have failed to do so.

I find it hard to see how this drift could stop, with nature protection NGOs supporting this business ... https://blogs.mediapart.fr/edition/cop2 ... re-ne-reso

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

And yeah eh, it hurts reality ...
Gift: http://www.maizeurop.com/wp-content/upl ... de5_BD.pdf

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Rather than the false gift of a corn lobby, only present to illustrate the fact that in France we are far from having abandoned monoculture (plant or animal), this is something very well documented and interesting for the future, if however these directives will be followed by effects, which I strongly doubt: https://www.business-biodiversity.eu/fr ... odiversite

[humus]

In the low tech genre, full organic.
Oh, is it possible?

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Poor arrears.

[ABC2019]

in any case, people who are surely not paid dearly.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

(The good thing about Bouzo is that he never misses an opportunity not to shut his mouth to throw shit in the fan ...)

[Obamot]

(he does it on purpose, right?)

100 farmers committed suicide in six years in India. In recent weeks, 1500 farmers have committed suicide collectively in India, in the province of Chattisgarh. A recurring phenomenon, since official figures show 1000 monthly suicides ... for more than fifteen years. In question, the indebtedness of the peasants linked to the purchase of miraculous GMO seeds ... which turn out to be catastrophic.

https://blogs.mediapart.fr/mariethe-fer ... rs-indiens

In France:
https://www.terre-net.fr/suicide/t796?page=1

https://www.terre-net.fr/actualite-agri ... 52186.html

(maybe want some “case")

[ABC2019]

(he does it on purpose, right?)

100 farmers committed suicide in six years in India. In recent weeks, 1500 farmers have committed suicide collectively in India, in the province of Chattisgarh. A recurring phenomenon, since official figures show 1000 monthly suicides ... for more than fifteen years. In question, the indebtedness of the peasants linked to the purchase of miraculous GMO seeds ... which turn out to be catastrophic.

https://blogs.mediapart.fr/mariethe-fer ... rs-indiens

In France:
https://www.terre-net.fr/suicide/t796?page=1

https://www.terre-net.fr/actualite-agri ... 52186.html

(maybe want some “case")

the least you can do would be to compare this figure with that of suicides before GMOs, but obviously this kind of consideration is beyond you ....