Financial Scandal in Germany to Lichtenstein

[elephant]

Good seriously! It's still serious: a State (The Federal Republic of Germany) is guilty of commercial espionage in another independent sovereign sovereign friend. (Lichtenstein). It was even necessary to commit a theft to obtain this information.

Are these documents admissible? What are the proofs of their authenticity? Only searches in Germany will have legal value.

In any case, stop dreaming of gauchos: money only stays where it is good. Keep it up to you if you hope to keep a little industry!

[bham]

It is not false ! So what do we do ?

In which way? What do you want to change?

I want to change this rotten world where the sport is to rip off your neighbor, to earn money on his back, whatever the cost.
I would like to change this pseudo democratic world which allows us to vote for a majority of politicians who see only their interests, .... etc.
But it is obvious that one cannot change human nature, unless one lobotomizes all the profiteers of all hairs.
More seriously, it should be possible to convey in mentalities that materialism is a tool not a goal.

[elephant]

I want to change this rotten world where the sport is to rip off your neighbor, to earn money on his back, whatever the cost.

Warning ! From a certain amount, money is no longer just a means of payment, it is a tool!
Would you bear to have your tool confiscated?

(I do not plead .... I explain!)

[bham]

I want to change this rotten world where the sport is to rip off your neighbor, to earn money on his back, whatever the cost.

Warning ! From a certain amount, money is no longer just a means of payment, it is a tool!
Would you bear to have your tool confiscated?
(I do not plead .... I explain!)

You did not understand me, read me again, I would like it to be only a tool and especially not a goal because the goal, in this case and in particular in the case of people very comfortable financially is to have as much as possible, just for the notion of possession. They will therefore do everything to satisfy this need. You will tell me that if money did not exist, these same people would still have the same need to possess, animals, slaves, shells, stones, ... etc.
And the worst thing is to imagine what could be done positive with all this money invested. If a tiny part could be used to develop new ideas like those of Pantone-Gillier, Pascal Ha Pham, those of Remundo, Gaston, and all the others.

[Christophe]

And the worst thing is to imagine what could be done positive with all this money invested. If a tiny part could be used to develop new ideas like those of Pantone-Gillier, Pascal Ha Pham, those of Remundo, Gaston, and all the others.

Especially not!! When it comes to energy saving, "we" prefer to develop costly solutions, long to set up, not very affordable ... etc etc

It is "strategic" for an energy country ...

[jean63]

After ....

Tax fraud: Merkel awaits measures from her counterpart in Liechtenstein

Chancellor Angela Merkel was to demand measures against her tax evasion on Wednesday, as the tax authorities investigate hundreds of Germans who concealed their wealth in the principality.

The tone of Merkel's long-planned meeting with Liechtenstein's head of government Otmar Hasler should be "diplomatic but firm" in substance, government circles said.

A working document prepared by the Ministry of Finance and which has filtered through the press accuses this tax haven of offering the typical legal framework which allows "dishonest taxpayers to evade the tax authorities in their country of residence without great risk".

According to the Financial Times Deutschland, German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrück, who is also to receive Mr. Hasler, is considering imposing a withholding tax on money transfers to tax havens.

Mrs Merkel has so far remained very measured. She said Monday that she expected Liechtenstein "more transparency", in the absence of tax harmonization that Europe is failing to achieve.

She said she was "encouraged by the progress already made" in recent years in Liechtenstein.

Bilateral relations have strained since the revelation that the German secret services BND had bought banknotes stolen from Liechtenstein for between 4 and 5 million euros, allowing German justice to open an investigation of unprecedented scale against fraudsters.

The mood became tense on Tuesday when Crown Prince Aloïs von und zu Liechtenstein denounced "an attack by Germany" against the sovereignty of this principality, which derives about 30% of its Gross Domestic Product (GDP) from the financial sector , with Germans among its main clients.

The head of state even threatened to initiate legal proceedings against BND agents for this "dubious" procedure. He did not rule out that the revelation of this affair a few days before Otmar Hasler's visit was a means of putting pressure on his country.

Mr. Hasler tried for his part to smooth things over, assuring the German media that "good bilateral relations cannot be threatened by the criminal attitude of individuals".

Despite the anger of the princely family, signs of goodwill seemed to multiply in Liechtenstein, which fears for its reputation as a tax haven.

The principality unveiled on Wednesday a project of deep reform of the law of foundations, anonymous and weakly imposed, which are among 45.000 and 50.000 on its territory.

She also announced Tuesday that she had ratified the UN Convention against Organized Crime, "an important new instrument" against money laundering and corruption, which she said complements the measures already taken to prevent money. illegally acquired abroad is placed at home.

The princely bank LGT, the country's leading banking group, said on Saturday that documents bought by the German authorities from an informant had been stolen in 2002.

The man, wanted by the Liechtenstein justice system, would be called Heinrich K. and would hide in Australia, according to the Wall Street Journal.

In Germany, justice continued to execute its 900 search warrants on Wednesday, in offices, homes and banks, particularly in western and southern Germany.

source: http://www.boursorama.com/infos/actuali ... ws=5171914

[Remundo]

Hello everybody,

I want to change this rotten world where the sport is to rip off your neighbor, to earn money on his back, whatever the cost.
I would like to change this pseudo democratic world which allows us to vote for a majority of politicians who see only their interests, .... etc.
But it is obvious that one cannot change human nature, unless one lobotomizes all the profiteers of all hairs.
More seriously, it should be possible to convey in mentalities that materialism is a tool not a goal.

Very nice reply ... We will always come up against human nature which remains fossilized with primary instincts that we inherit from the history of our biological evolution.

There is, moreover, an ever-increasing hyatus between our technological progress and the progress of our behavior ...

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[Remundo]

And the worst thing is to imagine what could be done positive with all this money invested. If a tiny part could be used to develop new ideas like those of Pantone-Gillier, Pascal Ha Pham, those of Remundo, Gaston, and all the others.

Indeed Bham,

Our financial needs are large on the scale of an individual, but tiny on the scale of an industrialist or a large financial company ... In fact, we reason on a range of 10 to 000 Euros according to the refinement that we wish to obtain on our machines.

Up to 4 zeros, one - big - sacrifice allows you to manage for a small individual ... From 5 zeros, it's downright unplayable without external input ...

@+

[jean63]

The rest ....... French people also played this little game .... Ahhh LE FRIC they will die of thinking about their FRIC:

Tax fraud in Germany: 163 people admit irregularities, according to German justice
Some 163 people admitted to having committed irregularities within the framework of the investigation into a vast case of tax fraud in Germany, announced German justice Tuesday.

Several hundred wealthy personalities in the country are suspected of fraud in this case which has already resulted in the resignation of Klaus Zumwinkel, influential boss of Deutsche Post, in which the government indirectly holds 31%. He is suspected of defrauding the tax authorities to the tune of around one million euros through investments in Liechtenstein.

According to the Bochum prosecutor Hans-Ulrich Krueck, 91 people targeted by the investigation "admitted the facts" and have already paid 27,8 million euros. Seventy-two other people have also contacted the tax authorities, he said. Mr. Krueck did not disclose the identities of the people concerned or precisely quantify the amount of fraud, however "enormous" in scale.

The German justice and tax authorities carried out raids and searches throughout the country, on the basis of information obtained by the intelligence services. They paid five million euros to an informer for a CD-ROM containing the names of 1.400 suspected fraudsters, including 600 Germans. The German Ministry of Finance stressed that the acquisition of this disc was legal.

According to Swedish tax director Mats Sjostrand, nine countries are working with the German authorities to confuse fraud, carried out through transactions and accounts in Liechtenstein: Great Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Canada, United States , Australia and New Zealand and Sweden.

"The French tax administration has received, as part of the administrative assistance, information concerning natural persons likely to have bank accounts in Liechtenstein and to use them for tax evasion purposes ", the General Directorate informed. taxes in France, in a press release issued by the French Budget Ministry. "It is carrying out the necessary investigations and will conduct the appropriate procedures."

The press release reminds that the Australian, Canadian, Italian, New Zealand, Swedish, British, American and French tax administrations, "all member countries of the Forum OECD tax administrations, "Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development," work together on revelations regarding the use of bank accounts in Liechtenstein for tax evasion.

"All the countries mentioned participated in the meeting of Forum of the OECD tax administrations "in Seoul in 2006" during which the CEOs of more than 30 countries considered that the use of bank accounts in tax havens was a major threat to tax administrations ", adds the "They are now planning to re-examine the effectiveness of the measures put in place to protect the tax bases and to reflect on the new measures that may prove necessary."

.... confirmed this evening to the news from FR2.

[jean63]

Come on ... it's becoming international =>

The German tax investigation takes on an international dimension

Started in Germany ten days ago, the hunt for tax fraud, via Liechtenstein, took place on Tuesday an increasingly international dimension and now affects more than 10 countries, including the United States, France, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Australia.

The prosecutor of Bochum, Hans-Ulrich Krück, who oversees the German investigation from the start, said that the tax authorities had already caught more than 160 German taxpayers in their nets: 27,8 million euros were recovered from 91 fraudsters who admitted the facts and 72 people who reported themselves in the hope of escaping prosecution.

The Spanish tax administration is analyzing information on Spaniards suspected of being involved in the investigation of tax fraud via Liechtenstein which affects more than ten countries, the Spanish tax authorities announced on Tuesday.

"The tax services are analyzing information regarding Spanish citizens included on the lists of Liechtenstein bank accounts and deposits suspected of having been used for tax evasion and fraud," according to a statement of these services, which does not specify the number of Spaniards concerned.

Nine member countries of the OECD (Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development) "together have received and are studying information on accounts in Liechtenstein," revealed for his part the Director of the Swedish Public Treasury Mats Sjöstrand.

This group includes Sweden, Great Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United States.

This has been confirmed by various capitals: Washington reported that "the US tax service has launched an investigation involving over XNUMX US taxpayers, in connection with accounts in Liechtenstein, to ensure income is properly reported and taxes paid ".

Italian Deputy Economy Minister Vincenzo Visco revealed that there were a "considerable number" of Italians on a list Rome received regarding the investigation into tax evasion via Liechtenstein.

French Budget Minister Eric Woerth has announced that the French tax services have "since the beginning of the year" a "list of a few hundred names" of people concerned by this fraud case via the Alpine principality. "We assess it", he said..

Australian tax officials said they had opened an investigation against XNUMX taxpayers.

During his press briefing in Bochum, Krück explained that the German investigation initially targeted people suspected of having secretly placed around 200 million euros with LGT bank in Liechtenstein, as well as employees of three German banks.

The investigation has now spread to a second overseas bank, he added.

The German daily Süddeutsche Zeitung understands that it is a subsidiary of the Swiss banking group Vontobel, in Liechtenstein.

In Zurich, Vontobel, specializing in wealth management, denied Tuesday that confidential data concerning its customers in Liechtenstein have been stolen or disclosed fraudulently.

A spokesman for the German Ministry of Finance, Thorsten Albig, said Monday that Berlin will share its information - for which the German secret services have paid more than 4 million euros - under cooperation agreements with the tax administrations of other countries.

The French Ministry of Budget denied Tuesday that the information transmitted by Germany on people likely to have defrauded the tax authorities had been paid.

The LGT Group bank in Liechtenstein admitted that data, stolen in 2002 by one of its employees, had not only been passed on to German authorities, but also "apparently (...) to other authorities".

Danish tax minister Kristian Jensen is one of the few officials hostile to the use of information bought from an informer to unmask tax evaders.

“I think it's a moral issue to reward a criminal for some information he stole,” he said.

This information allowed the German justice to launch, in mid-February, an unprecedented investigation on tax fraud, targeting in particular personalities like Klaus Zumwinkel, the boss of the Deutsche Post who has since resigned.

Bravo the rich !! they will hide their money in tax havens and meanwhile we wonder why food prices are rising in delirious proportions !!! but where are we going?