Airplane = CO2, we curb tourism

[jean63]

Well, what I was talking about the other day is starting to hit the shelves! (extract from econology news)

Ecology, a brake on the development of tourism - by Rulian on 07/02/2006: 22:36

World tourism is doing well and many specialists see in this activity one of the engines of the planetary economy of the next years. However, a grain of sand could stop the beautiful machine in 2006: environmental protectors want to limit travel by plane, because they are an important source of CO2 pollution.

The plane is sending too much CO2 into the atmosphere and tourism will have to be curbed. But how are they going to do it?

Are we going to create a plane travel bank: a sort of point card like a driving license. we would lose points as soon as we travel according to the estimate of CO2 sent into the atmosphere see the site www.climatecare.org and we would find it if we didn't go on a plane trip for a while

This promises a great grip with the lobbies of the aeronautical industry. Imagine a drop in aircraft sales at Boeing and Airbus, and a drop in ticket sales for airlines and travel sellers

Finally, why not ask the question of all these useless trips for business, when with modern means we can very well do remote meetings.

How much oil will we save

And what extra oil reserve

You should know that CO2 emissions from aircraft are not taken into account in the Kyoto protocol, because supposedly, we do not know which country to attribute them to; The beautiful, incredible but true excuse, a planet of false asses.

But hey, do not dream, it is only an ecological idea, so it will not go far for the moment.

[Woodcutter]

Airport activities pollute
Air traffic at Roissy Charles-de-Gaulle airport alone emits tonnages of nitrogen oxide and hydrocarbons comparable to those generated by road traffic on the Paris ring road. All of the airport's activities emit 30% more nitrogen oxide than the ring road.
Airparif News. February 2004.

[wirbelwind262]

Hello!
I am interning with a famous French aircraft manufacturer and politically touching on French aeronautics is VERBOTEN!
(especially when you eat Boeing ...)
the aero lobby will do everything to last ...
here is @ +!

[Other]

Hello,
You forget the boats, in the St-Laurent, there is a traffic of big sea-boaters there follow one behind the other, as much to go up as to go down, it is the door to return to North America, that goes as far as the great lakes.
For planes and boats, we are still far from making them work with a clean product, it will come when oil becomes scarce. Although in Alberta there is an oil reserve in the oil sands larger than the Arabian reserve, but extracting it is still too expensive.
I think our leaders should focus on ground transportation, it is easier to improve at this level, the rest will follow.
When I see the amount of trucks carrying 20 billets of steel at a time and making the empty return trip? over a distance of 700km to supply another factory, when the railway enters the factories?
let me not come to make me feel guilty when I drive or I take a plane ride ..
When I see what our neighbors to the south are doing! and that we are still alive almost in the middle of a fir forest, and that we are asked not to heat with wood ...
Obviously the calculation method is per capita and not according to the area occupied ...

Andre

Andre

[jean63]

You are absolutely right André, the boats too and the trucks that run empty too.

With us in Europe, trucks no longer travel empty because they are followed by the boss wherever they are thanks to the satelitte by GPS.

They receive delivery and loading orders wherever they are; this is how we see trucks from Eastern Europe waiting for a whole weekend in the Volvic waters car park in Auvergne to wait for loading on Monday morning at the opening.

What is absurd is this feverish transport of goods across Europe which is an absolute aberration and pollutes our Alps and our Pyrenees + the Rhone valley ... etc, all that to satisfy the industrial and agricultural production system absolutely crazy which represents an incalculable waste because of these exchanges between East and West, North and South; same problem for planes and goods and also ships.

The liberal global system has made transportation a real problem of widespread pollution.

The good thing is that with the internet, at least we don't pollute (only when we buy the gear and print text or photos on a printer).

Well, we're not going to redo the world tonight.

[freddau]

As for the tar sands ... I recently read a report from the senate (maybe on this site, I know more so I'll say it again).

To have a profitable production of oil from tar sands, it would be necessary to have a water flow equal to that of colorado ...........

http://www.senat.fr/rap/r05-105/r05-10513.html#toc138

And in terms of IT .... the manufacture of a car pollutes if I am not mistaken 2X its weight and that of a micro-pro ... 300X, fortunately that the micro pro is not heavy......

As far as shortening the distances is concerned, it would already be quite a lot.

[jean63]

freddau

Super info on the senate site, but frankly I would never have had the idea of ​​going to look for such info on the SENAT site (but what do they care about these senators?) Finally there is good on that it is a study of specialists that we had to pay dearly with our taxes. And what does it do there? do senators have any concern or POWER over the oil shale mining choices.

I knew the existence of these quarries in North America or in Canada as well as the exorbitant cost + the enormous quantity of water necessary .... but there it is the bouquet. These Romans (Americans) are crazy.

The ricans want to exploit the resources located in Alaska in the national park "Arctic National Wildwife" which is a protected site, I saw that in the last "Faur pas réver" on FR3. We even saw a pipeline raised by one meter to protect the animals (?) Which crossed the park! and the anger of local Inuit at this project. I do not remember if they are oil shales.

[freddau]

They did a study to find out what is going on, the conclusion was not to reduce the taxes on petroleum ...... which is a rather good thing to keep the price of petroleum high ..

The power of senators on the American state is quite restricted, by treating them as incapable, it will not advance the loco. It is already good that they are informed and by people who know about it and who have had the time to make a correct study. So it is expensive.

[freddau]

Hello!
I am interning with a famous French aircraft manufacturer and politically touching on French aeronautics is VERBOTEN!
(especially when you eat Boeing ...)
the aero lobby will do everything to last ...
here is @ +!

And to make planes fly, they will do it with potato alcohol .

In my corner, it is the same, maritime transport explodes, I no longer count orders for shipyards.

It is one of the transport requiring the least energy but hey it's amazing what they consume.

[Christophe]

And to make planes fly, they will do it with potato alcohol .

I think rather of crude oil (or a mixture ... because the oil at -40 ° C must no longer be very liquid )

In my corner, it is the same, maritime transport explodes, I no longer count orders for shipyards.

Uh what corner are you in? Because the Chantiers de l'Atlantique are getting a lot of noise at the moment ....