What Nicolas Hulot wrong! Personal opinion

[Christophe]

Hi everybody,

I tell myself that if hulot starts talking about pantone, energies that come out of nowhere and so on, he will pass for a "hulotberlu"

Apparently you don't know what pantone is since you confuse "free energy" and pantone ... or you have listened too much to the salads that can be read on other sites ... or in training courses ...

I strongly advise you to read or reread the Pantone Project part of the site ...

You have decided to annoy me today?

[iota]

Raaaaaah do not bother you!
I know what the pantone thank you.

I mean, if he starts talking about it and he's all alone, he's going to look like a crazy man.
The pantone is not well known to the general public to be "understood".

[Christophe]

I mean, if he starts talking about it and he's all alone, he's going to look like a crazy man.
The pantone is not well known to the general public to be "understood".

He has only to address pantone specialists... I only ask that ... and there are several people here well trained not to tell bullshit!

If you want to find them, you can have no problem ... but you have to want ...

[bham]

I do not know if it's jealousy ... but I know that I feel a lot of frustration because of the hypocrisy of research institutes, media and ecology associations never received any support!

On the contrary, I feel like I have been ... put on the sidelines professionally speaking (and to speak politely)! (finally it's the crisis at what seems ...)

First when I spoke of jealousy, it was to laugh . Then I do not think the crisis has something to see. I just think that it is very difficult to impose an idea, a concept, even with the environmental associations and even more with the research institutes. In these, you know very well that the engineers, scientists who work there are overworked and if on occasion, they have a little time to listen to you or read you, they can at best find it interesting, curious, weird but they will not go further because they do not have the time, or they think that you are a crazy crazy of +, ... etc. You have to be a little unconventional to be interested in these things and I think a good engineer or a good scientist should be unconventional. This is rarely the case because the studies provided tend to "format" the student and therefore curiously to put blinders on him by admitting only the scientifically or mathematically demonstrable. Which is ineptitude. Those who manage to escape this formatting can on the other hand become elites, I am thinking of Charpak, Reeves, in particular. And you know there are so many avenues to explore, so yours or another ....
As for the green associations, between those who make the ecology a philosophy or a policy and not a concretization, those who consider that the car is anyway to banish, those who feel unable to support such a concept, those who have not enough influence or weight ....
And you yourself have a priori negative on many concepts, the production of hot water by cavitation, the apparatus of JM Moreau, among others. I do not say that you are wrong, I only say, do not be surprised that others have a priori indifferent or even negative about what you present. It's human nature that wants that. And then your scientific study on the pantone, who is able to analyze it, to dissect it, to criticize it, apart from other engineers or scientists? And then it is never a study of + in the mass of studies, theses, .... etc.
As for the media, it's not worth it to talk about it.
In short, do not expect to be followed as the messiah.
So, never rely on others but on oneself ...... follow your idea to the end until it is necessary.Gently anyway, otherwise it hurts your head.

[Woodcutter]

[..]You have decided to annoy me today?

???? SPM?

[Other]

Hello,
at reading I see that you know more about the panton than about politics. Collecting signatures to go to the election is the easy part, organize and win an election is quite another thing.
Certain subject must not be approached in election campaign.
it is necessary to say what the mass of people want to hear, they want to be reassured, secure, they do not want to hear about problems, they want to hear, that they are in the best country.
The discourse must be focused on the interests of the mass of electors.
the votes of intellectuals is a drop in the box urn.
Before the election all is prepared according to the layer of electors (who will vote) to seduce, if you address in an agricultural environment or in a big city the discour is differrent (not contradictory), the goal is to make the voter vote.
The problem is that the voters still have prejudices about the social rank, the image of the candidate or his level of education, and the worst is the worst educated who cling to the title of the candidate.
You will notice that all the condidates will hold the same speech, he will speak all of ecology, without ciphering, the candidate who is fooled in the (hard green) will not pass. the mass is not yet sensitized. the one who will pass will have to raze the population and touch all the sensitive points, once in the power it will be able to settle (what it can regulate) The elections are made with a weak% of voters who will vote, and the results are rarely very marked it goes to 51% finished the big majorities. (You have to learn how to make an election under these conditions, even if only 40% of the voters come to the polls) a good organization knows who will vote and know how to get out its sympathizers it takes a long preparation.

Andre

[Woodcutter]

A presidential election is, in France, with all the same (fortunately ...) a participation be strong!

Source TNS -Sofres

[Christine]

to bham, regarding the bonuses:
I agree with you and my comment was especially Christophe, who is always against everything, especially if the others are for (kiss, my darling).

to bham and citro, concerning 500 signatures for Hulot.
My thinking was mostly a reaction to the big wave of enthusiasm. One would think that Hulot is already president:
1) Watch out for the flip side of enthusiasm. We get excited, we believe it's already in our pocket and when we bump into reality, we can have extreme reactions. I can already hear the "all rotten", "world of bastards", "democracy is useless" the day after the elections. I just wanted to cool the heads that are heating up a bit.
2) For now, he does not intend to introduce himself. The pact is a (firm) proposal made to politicians of politics. So, even if they are trying to ride the wave, do not think we will have a government / messiah in 2007.
3) It goes without saying that I am in 100% for this pact, because it is necessary to regroup to arrive at something. I've been defending Hulot for a long time on this forumwhen he was accused of being an opportunist, a money maker, an ecologist of law that should not exist, and so on and so forth ...

Voili, voilo

[abyssin3]

De Villepin's answer to NH:

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/13112006/5/vil ... gique.html

The tax on air noise pollution will also be increased by 10% to finance the soundproofing of housing located near airports.

It makes you smile: he's not even talking about taxing kerosene. "tax noise pollution", but by flying with thousands of tonnes of zero-rated kerosene ... Find the error ...

[saveplanet]

I have come to know in a deeper way the intervention of Mr Villepinet I manage to believe that we speak in the void!
So many problems that are declared, highlighted and ridiculous proposals proposed as a solution.
As said Abyssinian, it makes you smile, finally, rather cry.
So let's mobilize for the pact. So that these junk measures that only attack the consequence of the problem, act at its source.