Methanization and electrical production: JT FR2 13h 17-01-08

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Methanization and electrical production: JT FR2 13h 17-01-08




by jean63 » 17/01/08, 14:24

In Lorraine at the Migneville farm (I think we've already talked about it here?), the production of electricity from cow dung works very well, the farmer is going to expand the installation.

It testifies :

http://jt.france2.fr/13h/

click on "LORRAINE / METHANIZATION FARM"
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by lio74 » 17/01/08, 15:36

jean63 wrote: the production of electricity from cow dung works very well, the farmer is going to expand the installation.


Hello !

of course that's very good... except that as usual, we're lagging behind!!

in sweden he even uses it for buses (bio gas from the recovery of agro-food waste, green waste, etc.)

I have to find the article on a biobaz station of a Mega Watts in Germany... only fault that can be blamed, the collection of slurry by truck throughout the territory!

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by Remundo » 17/01/08, 16:02

Yeah, that's nice...

A small problem, the power remains modest on an industrial scale, partly because of the difficult (and energy-intensive) collection of slurry / organic waste and the gasification efficiency not always at the top.

I would see this kind of installation in a multitude of (small) decentralized installations, for example in each peasant or in each city with waste collection.

Finally, it's renewable and all renewable is honorable :D

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by yanyan26 » 17/01/08, 18:06

Hello everyone
I tried 2 years ago to make methane in a plastic barrel with a tight lid with horse dung.

It was a bit miserable, there had to be sunshine, the methane bubbles remained stuck under the organic matter, it would have taken a brewer.
In short, the hassle to inflate a truck inner tube on a summer afternoon, but hey, it works with a beautiful flame of a beautiful grey/blue as a reward.

You can try but a friendly advice, when you empty your barrel after your experience do not pour it too close to your front door "GUARANTEED SMELL" : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by Remundo » 17/01/08, 18:21

Ah yes, manure fermented in anaerobic condition in full sun, it must be to die for :P

Did you send concentrated extracts to Channel? : Lol:

The gas recovery, I think would require a suction tube and a compressor.

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by jonule » 18/01/08, 09:06

Hello everyone,
3500 instalaltions in Germany, 4 in France ...
in Sweden a train runs on biogas!

the blow of the barrel, you need a kind of plastic grid, a bit like the one that prevents the leaves from falling into the gutter, on the surface of the materials in the can, to break the crust so that the bubbles cross it easily.
yes it has to be in T°C, it can be activated with an aquarium style heater thermostated at 35°C, "for example" but the sun is better, that's for sure.

otherwise, prefer the "continuous entry" system which avoids emptying the contents of the barrel, which is SUPER fertilizer afterwards, the gas being separated + quickly, the material is nitrogenized + quickly also which comes out "continuously" is super fertilizer Also. it avoids spreading 107 years on the fields and letting the gas go, there we imprison it and we have fertilizer more quickly.

it is easy to make a nurse and several inner tubes in //, trapped in tires for more pressure.

the shot of the container to be emptied (1st approach):
http://www.nrjrealiste.fr/biogaz/biogaz.html
the continuous flow tank:
http://www.nrjrealiste.fr/biogaz/biogaz2.html
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by bham » 18/01/08, 09:52

Yeah, and the worst part is that big farmers have been forced to come up to standards at great expense (subsidized anyway) by having retention basins built for liquid manure and slurry.
If the authorities had thought a bit beforehand, the said farmers could have, when complying with the standards, coupled the construction of the retention basins with a biomethanation unit, without significant additional cost.
A2E could perhaps tell us more about these retention basins.
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by jonule » 18/01/08, 11:21

to but they knew very well what they were doing, do not take the leading technocrats for pecnos, they want to sell their oil the state is subsidized there ... prout!
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by jean63 » 18/01/08, 11:31

It was discussed here for projects in Africa that have partially emerged (allows to fight against deforestation and the advance of the desert):

https://www.econologie.com/forums/comment-pr ... t1092.html

and surely in other posts.
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by Flytox » 18/01/08, 12:14

Hello Jonule


Very good mower....: Lol:

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You made it work, you have other info.....I've been wanting to try this for years and never took the time.
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