Google to change the world?

Books, television programs, films, magazines or music to share, counselor to discover ... Talk to news affecting in any way the econology, environment, energy, society, consumption (new laws or standards) ...
User avatar
sen-no-sen
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 6856
Registration: 11/06/09, 13:08
Location: High Beaujolais.
x 749




by sen-no-sen » 20/05/13, 12:53

Directly related to the advent of transhumanism:

google baby or the surrogate mothers business in India:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnCMPhNUF1A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQ4Qs8Noxk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kJM8OUGnpc

(the name of google is used here in order to denounce the mercantile drifts of the net)
0 x
"Engineering is sometimes about knowing when to stop" Charles De Gaulle.
User avatar
Grandaddy
I learn econologic
I learn econologic
posts: 35
Registration: 21/11/13, 14:19




by Grandaddy » 21/11/13, 14:29

sen-no-sen wrote:
Christophe wrote:But it is not exactly the same definition as that of wiki ... which talks about improving and not replacing !!


Yes, but as mentioned above, there is gibberish, promises, and there are facts.
We must get to the bottom of the problem: why want to improve the human ???
Disciplines have existed since the dawn of time, often qualified as spiritual, which aim at this, but it seems to me that in the case of transhumanism it is not an initiatory journey aimed at attaining enlightenment, but rather at develop a juicy business!


In this case, could we consider that Nietzsche works in favor of transhumanism? He indeed considers man as being a bridge between animal and superhuman if I remember correctly (in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra). But for once in the sense of Nietzsche, he does indeed speak of personal development (d 'awakening as you say), and the ability to overcome certain constraints.

But actually, it is probably very easy for big brands in the high-tech sector (such as Google or Apple) to use (bypass) this notion of transhumanism to sell their products. Obviously with the aim of making people believe that this makes the human being grow as a whole (Nietzsche would of course be horrified by this idea). On the contrary, he would no doubt consider these new technologies as an additional constraint.

In any case, very interesting debate.
0 x
User avatar
sen-no-sen
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 6856
Registration: 11/06/09, 13:08
Location: High Beaujolais.
x 749




by sen-no-sen » 21/11/13, 18:50

Grandaddy wrote:In this case, could one consider that Nietzsche works in favor of transhumanism?


Nietzche's work has largely been distorted throughout history.
The Nazis used part of the ideology of the superman to justify the establishment of racial eugenics ... we know the horrible result of all this!

Man, like everything in the Universe is subject to evolution, everything is only permanent change ...
Homo sapiens is therefore only a transition to another form, in reality, the terms that we use to define the world around us only have value in a given space-time, before we were primates, tomorrow we will still be "something else", we can't fix anything ...

If we go beyond Nietzche's vision, it appears that all spirituality aims to connect human beings to the absolute and those by different means, so it would be logical that one day the descending man primate evolves into something "higher", this is very allegorically exposed in the 2001 film S. Kubrick's Space Odyssey.

But actually, it is probably very easy for big brands in the high-tech sector (such as Google or Apple) to use (bypass) this notion of transhumanism to sell their products.


Transhumanism in the sense that it is currently used refers to a desire to increase the capacities of the human being, but it is necessary to understand that this logic is not an end in itself, but a consequence of the economic system.
This is a fundamental point to understand.
The idea here is not to lead man towards the absolute, but to fit to the economic system, due to the ultra-rapid evolution that this is subjecting to our environment.

It is a direct consequence of the laws of thermodynamics.
Such a project is doomed to failure, because once mired in this "matrix", "augmented man" will have as much freedom as a washing machine!
0 x
"Engineering is sometimes about knowing when to stop" Charles De Gaulle.
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79353
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 11059




by Christophe » 04/04/14, 13:52

To read: April 04, 2014, by Jean-Baptiste Jacquin

Page and Brin, apprentice dictators at Google

http://ecobusiness.blog.lemonde.fr/2014 ... ez-google/
0 x

 


  • Similar topics
    Replies
    views
    Last message

Back to "Media & News: TV shows, reports, books, news ..."

Who is online ?

Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 250 guests