Well no, Christophe, cuicui, Coucou, Elec, gegyx and all of you who took part in this debate
I won't let you tear yourself apart in vain!
Every point of view that was expressed contained very obvious truths ...
None of you are wrong, because the truths expressed are all partial ...
I have carefully read each other's arguments, and have come to realize that one way or another, we are influenced by the political discourses contained in the history books of a on the one hand, and in the information that we are willing to give us on the other hand.
The root of the problem is absolutely not where you put it!
The bottom line is that humans have a serious propensity to settle their conflicts and disagreements with guns, bombs and atomic firecrackers.
Yes we can be disgusted, when we see the images of this villainous conflict (aren't they all villainous?) That it is moreover particularly since it is, as one of the speakers said, a fight between David and Goliath or as Renaud would say in one of his songs: “pebbles against heavy helmets”.
It's very difficult to stay right in this story, everyone has to give each other some credit (at least in this discussion).
For elec, I feel you are favorable to the Israeli cause to such an extent that you give the impression of being part of this community yourself (if this is the case, you can only have a very partial vision) which to my eyes are absolutely not an evil, for me the evil is at the level of the policy (of the ostrich?) which I qualify as sandbox ... Politics of the sandbox which is the fact of all the humans without distinction!
Image mode ON: two children are in a sandbox, there is a shovel, a rake, a bucket… What do you think will happen? After five minutes the two children will come to blows, if at that moment, one of the two mothers who attend the fight does not make the right decision we left for a fist fight.
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I have exposed the problem in an excessively clear way it seems to me!
Add to that the "pseudo-spiritual" dimension and I weigh my words at the risk of provoking another controversy (I already pity those who want to contradict me, having a certain practice of contradictory debate in the Buddhist sense of the term).
Let me explain, how can one dare to claim to be: "the children of God" when one has in mind the sole policy of "an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"?
How can one dare to claim to be: "the bearers of the truth" when one preaches hatred for one's neighbor? And the extermination of an ethnic group?
Believe me brother environmentalists, you are all right ... And you are all wrong and I will not throw stones at you!
You are talking about a particular story, which has lasted for more than 2000 years and in which the protagonists have never understood what the word compassion, the word forgiveness, the word love meant.
On this basic basis, I will be waiting for you all around the corner.
Ideally, therefore, we should eliminate from all governments, from all boards of directors, from all decision-making positions people who consider themselves to be "superior" to others, or even worse (and often they go hand in hand) who claim hold the truth and impose it by force on their neighbors (and I include in the force - what I consider to be persuasion bordering on hypnotic - which consists in making believe in hypotheses an impressive number of people, who join in ignorance)
This should calm you all, and bring to this site a wind of real conciliation and a desire for mutual understanding.
Fraternally Lietseu
