Borloo wants consom'actors of bio in France

[Christophe]

Passed on the news from FR2 at 13:19

Report on the development of "organic" by mass distribution wanted by the government. So hang in there: as there is not enough organic in France (normal: the CAP clearly does not give a damn about them: the more you put in crap, the more subsidy you have, it's a bit of a caricature but not that much ) then must import organic products from distant destinations (No kidding...). I think we saw corn from Morocco ...

So long journey in refrigerator transport + packaging + preservatives ... in the end, is "organic" so organic?

The development of organic food by mass retailers does not bode well for that: land can be less exhausted but more transport and more packaging ...

In short it is 100% ORGANIC ECO PIPO! ORGANIC YES but LOCAL ORGANIC, let's boycott the IMPORT ORGANIC ... (amen)

Then if you really want fresh and ecological there are AMAP!

[grakamoule]

We import organic products that come from far away like coffee, cocoa, sugar and beyond pre-conceived ideas, maritime transport represents only 10% of our total carbon emissions, bcp less than packaging or cars of our sales staff (who do not however rolls).

We were the first to be surprised by this assessment.
That said, it's not easy not to pack chocolate or coffee!

in short what is very true for fresh fruit, is much less so for processed products, their eco-design seems much more impactful than their origin (if they come by boat of course)

The other very big impact is the health of producers ...

And yes we sell all this in supermarkets, because this is where 80% of the shopping is done and that it is the most economical way to distribute products (and it is not always happy).
For the urban consumer, it is often the cheapest method to find quality products (even if we agree, there is still a long way to go)

Sincerely,

[Christophe]

1) I think we have to distinguish 2 imported products:
a) imported "exotic" products that cannot be grown at home
b) imported products that can be grown here
c) Fair trade organic products

As much for a) and c) there is not really an alternative as much to import organic apples from Italy or Romania where I do not know (South Africa for example) where while there are orchards in almost all regions of France, you have to ask yourself or is the logic of BIO?

A Swiss study has shown that quite a lot (but not all) of ORGANIC fruits and vegetables were contaminated with preservatives and pesticides AFTER their picking ... they were therefore still entitled to the designation ORGANIC since it only concerns agriculture. ..

Finally, the BIO is above all an argument for retailers to inflate prices. The cultivator does not always see the color.

Besides, an intensive conversion to organic is often done with economic losses from the fact, among other things, of subsidies when it should be the opposite: you consume less fertilizer and oil, you make a better product so you should win more...

2) Ah I forgot: Borloo also spoke of a "ecolabelling"more or less compulsory on all products and that's a very good thing.

For info the thing is already "in progress" by CASINO but I do not know if it is on the shelves: https://www.econologie.com/eco-consommat ... -3487.html

[Arthur_64]

Please note: organic does not always mean green.

The AB (Organic Agriculture) label guarantees compliance with certain specifications (available on the net) and only that.
There are producers who make organic out of pure economic interest and not out of an ecological state of mind. Besides, semantically, agriculture is always organic: try to do agriculture without biology.

The AB label does not take into account the whole chain: if your cereal package contains a certain percentage of food respecting the AB label, it will be organic even if the packaging is the worst filth there is and the truck has done it three times around the earth.

Now, if I sell my vegetables (or my calves, etc.) produced without following a specific specification but ultimately greener than the AB, I am not entitled to a label (because there is no necessarily corresponding label, or that I do not want to pay to get certified ...) even if my vegetables are better (organoleptic qualities) and have less impact on the environment.

And as you can see, a label in agriculture is not a guarantee of quality on the result, but the assurance that things were done according to certain rules.

To be certain of the minimal impact of a purchase on the environment, it is necessary, at least, that the specifications take into account all the stages of the life of the product (from design to recycling) otherwise it is the illusion.

Certification bodies have a bright future ahead of them.