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by geotrouvetout » 04/07/08, 17:42

the ransom is one thing (the emerging part of the iceberg), political agreements are others and it takes time.

Geo;).
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by The shadow » 04/07/08, 18:21

geotrouvetout wrote:the ransom is one thing (the emerging part of the iceberg), political agreements are others and it takes time.

Geo;).


that's right and colombia is under the arms of the usa not venezuéla : Lol:

oil is my friend : Cry: colombia is a playground for the usa
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by crispus » 04/07/08, 18:58

Christophe wrote:Well if it's a simple ransom ... pkoi wait 6,5 years?!?

Before, the € / $ exchange rate was not favorable at the quay d'orsay : Mrgreen:
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by gegyx » 04/07/08, 22:51

The Israelis are well established commercially in Colombia…

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-69-11 ... -1-0-0.htm

http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/mond ... 933.FR.php

And if it is a ransom, the ricans can largely pay since they had three nationals among the released.
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by The shadow » 05/07/08, 21:52

just a question 6 years of deprivation ?? it is still very oily

and better than james bond colombian television gives video

http://www.france24.com/fr/20080705-pre ... navi=MONDE

it's stronger than anything

secret operation live

and etc..etc .... the sheep of panurges ..........

other information ???

Israeli specialists are said to have prepared their Colombian colleagues for the liberation operation.
Israeli special operations experts are said to have had a great success, overseeing the training of the Colombian commandos who released Ingrid Betancourt. Israel Ziv, head of a security consultancy, Global CST, and former chief of staff operations, as well as Yossi Kupperwasser, former head of the military intelligence service, were seen in the base where the Colombian commando trained in an environment specially designed to resemble that of the place where Ingrid Betancourt was held.
Several dozen intelligence specialists and other special missions participated in the training of their Colombian colleagues. Israel Ziv, quoted by the press on his return from Bogota, for his part called this feat of arms "Colombian Entebbe", an allusion to the operation carried out thirty-two years ago, day to day, several thousand kilometers from Israel, in Uganda, to save the 244 passengers of an Air France plane hijacked by Palestinians and German extremists.
"Ingrid Betancourt had become over the years a symbol of the international fight against terrorism," said Israel Ziv to the daily Haaretz. The operation which was carried out to liberate it is worthy of the special units of any army in the world ”, added this general of reserve. He however had modest triumph and did not give the impression of pulling the cover, stressing that "we must not exaggerate our part in this operation". Global CST official quoted in media said the company helped Colombians organize "properly in the fight against terrorism, use intelligence properly and think effectively from a perspective operational and strategic ”.
Military cooperation
The Israeli intervention in the drama of Ingrid Betancourt dates back to a year and a half, when the Colombian authorities asked for help from the Hebrew State in their fight against the Farc. This process was facilitated by the very close military relations between the two countries. Israel has sold to Bogota planes, drones, unmanned reconnaissance planes used for surveillance missions, as well as intelligence equipment. At the request of the Ministry of Defense, Global CST responded to the request from Colombia.
Israeli-Colombian cooperation has not always been harmonious. A former Israeli colonel, Yair Klein, was recently arrested in Moscow at the request of Colombia, which requested his extradition. This ex-soldier sentenced to ten years in prison in Bogota was found guilty of having trained the militia of drug lords, like Pablo Escobar in the late 1980s. It is to avoid this kind of blunder due to mercenaries become uncontrollable as the Ministry of Defense imposed very strict rules of the game on the export of the know-how of former high officials of the army and the security services.
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by gegyx » 06/07/08, 23:44

Last whim of Sarkoléon, emperor of the com.

hand over the legion of honor to Ingrid on July 14 ...

: Evil:
Did he think of handing it over to Cécilia, for the famous release of the Bulgarian nurses?

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by Floppy28 » 09/07/08, 00:25

For a long time I have been thinking the same thing ... And for a long time I have not been the only one! Glad to know that even on the Internet we talk about it and that we think the same (and not only with friends or at home).
Thousands of hostages who suffer or die.
Ingrid Betancourt ... Ingrid Betancourt! But Ingrid Betancourt !!

It may not be her fault to Ingrid, well we don't have to blame her, so much the better if she is saved, but frankly the media should be ashamed.

People are being tortured all over the world, but that's okay, it's Ingrid Betancourt who counts. I hate even more our president who decided to grant him the legion of honor! He participates in all this media debility ... the other 14, basically, it's shit :?:

However, there is one thing that I did not appreciate about Ingrid Betancourt:
If it should be done, I would do it again

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If the media want to make a big cinema, it is one thing, to make spend millions of euros to mobilize the states and everything, to be able to start again and to reprovoke everything ... It's not really smart, finally .. If our states are stupid enough to do it and the media are even more stupid, it's not his fault, to Ingrid!


A few months ago a prisoner for more than 6 years was released, nobody talked about it, what good ... If it's not Ingrid, it's not important (she had to endure the same thing or worse than Ingrid Betancourt, but hey ...) she would have stayed 16 years more no one would have talked about it. For them, the flipped operation, a lamentable failure. Only one other person would have gone out in his place, the whole world would be happy and the operation would have been a total success.
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by renaud67 » 09/07/08, 10:33

even if it is an American film ... this is what our politicians play "Men of influence" by Barry Levinson with Dustin Hoffman and Robert de Niro
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by Flytox » 09/07/08, 10:44

Hello renaud67

It was also the idea that crossed my head, and what if all this shitting uproar there was only a vast staging?
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