alternating traffic: against pollution or pump money?

[Ahmed]

The solution of the two cars was adopted by the Athenians who are subject to alternating traffic, with the result that we know level of atmospheric pollution ...

[sen-no-sen]

@Flytox : unfortunately for us, Batman is not part of the government *!

... * PS: They are closer to Pacman!

[dede2002]

If this kind of reaction followed a strict proportionality, Japan would have experienced a revolution after Fukushima!
These formal behaviors are not exclusive to the Japanese.

Out of curiosity, I came across this table:

http://www.statistiques-mondiales.com/r ... eaires.htm

We see that Japan has gone from 54 reactors to zero reactors, while Ukraine still has 15.

On this table the behavior seems indeed formal and exclusive ...

[Leo Maximus]

The only solution is Euro VI for all vehicles now.

[Did67]

1) It's not very long: reception of models from September 2014; registration from September 2015.

https://www.econologie.com/forums/posting.ph ... 971328f023

2) "Euro VI" means a set of standards. Euro VI for petrol cars will not be exactly the same as Euro VI for diesel cars!

3) But that will not change much, since it is the registration of new cars. The ancients continue to drive as long as they pass the technical control.

There are 38 million cars in circulation in France.

http://www.ccfa.fr/Le-parc-automobile-F ... 1er,123609

About 1,75 million new cars were registered in 2013, 4,5% of the fleet whose emissions have fallen - they are not zero. So probably not much more than 4% decrease in emissions ...

I imagine what the initiators of this thread would write if we made suddenly the renewal of all vehicles.

[sen-no-sen]

Did67 wrote:

I imagine what the initiators of this thread would write if we made suddenly the renewal of all vehicles.

Even if all vehicles were replaced, would that have a real ecological impact?

[Leo Maximus]

1) It's not very long: reception of models from September 2014; registration from September 2015.

https://www.econologie.com/forums/posting.ph ... 971328f023

2) "Euro VI" means a set of standards. Euro VI for petrol cars will not be exactly the same as Euro VI for diesel cars!

3) But that will not change much, since it is the registration of new cars. The ancients continue to drive as long as they pass the technical control.

There are 38 million cars in circulation in France.

http://www.ccfa.fr/Le-parc-automobile-F ... 1er,123609

About 1,75 million new cars were registered in 2013, 4,5% of the fleet whose emissions have fallen - they are not zero. So probably not much more than 4% decrease in emissions ...

I imagine what the initiators of this thread would write if we made suddenly the renewal of all vehicles.

I said Euro VI for all vehicles, including the millions of TD / TDIs who are 20 years and older. The catalytic converter, the FAP, the AD Blue can be installed perfectly on old vehicles. Euro VI petrol also gives a limit on particle emissions.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normes_eur ... %A9mission

We point the finger at the tourist coaches and the 4 x 4 but most of them are Euro VI. Example with the SNCF TER coaches. The Dacia Duster which is the (best selling) 4 x 4 in France is at least Euro V.

[Ahmed]

Dede2002, you wrote:

We see that Japan has gone from 54 reactors to zero reactors, while Ukraine still has 15.

mea culpa, I knew that a certain number of reactors had been put to sleep, I did not know or did not remember any more, that it was the case for the whole of the park.

However, if nuclear has become a sensitive subject there, that does not fundamentally change the Japanese objectives, modeled on the dominant model ...

[Did67]

[quote = "Maximus Leo"]

I remind you of the waves raised by the initiator of the post [look at the title again!], By just one day of alternating traffic or ...

This is just what I was talking about!

Or the heated debate here some time ago about the introduction of a modest carbon tax (modest, compared to the cost of retrofitting old vehicles).

Not to mention those who cannot be retrofitted and brought up to standard (the generation just before - the TDs - a number of which are still in circulation).

And I would also like to reassure you: I have nothing against (since I am already beyond Euro VI with my LPG cars); I just think it would spark a revolution!

[Did67]

Even if all vehicles were replaced, would that have a real ecological impact?

Anyway!

This would not solve the problem, but would significantly decrease it!

For particles we go from 140 to 4,5.

These are the most dangerous.

But if this source is, on average, only part of the problem, that would be clearly felt. Especially in cities and along highways and urban outskirts where this is the main problem!