Sarkozy en Off on France3

[Bougonnator]

It is highly publicized because it affects ... the media! Do the same thing in another sector and it will just make a laconic dispatch at Reuters which will not be repeated anywhere.

What bothers me is that public television seeks at all costs (in every sense of the term) to simulate private television and broadcast the same nonsense, the same thrilling soap operas with thrilling Renault Mégane races of cops against villains in black cars, or the globular eyes of Derrick looking at you through portholes carved out of 5-star bottle caps, not to mention the intense action of Inspector Maigrelet stuffing his pipe with a nod.
It is by watching these programs of immeasurable quality that we must fight to save public television, no doubt. Apart from Arte for his cultural documentaries bought from the BBC, I don't see what there is to keep.

[minguinhirigue]

For the freedom of protest and the freedom of expression, I believe that it suffers more and more in this beautiful France, the number of subjects considered as taboos multiply.

Subjects for which we publicly condemn the fact of questioning and seeking a coherent historical truth rather than criticizing and possibly condemning the substance.

I’m thinking of 9/11 where everyone is denigrating the right to a serious counter-investigation and denigrating the fact that the commission report presents enormous abbreviations that have never been clarified

I am thinking of the Zoé arche affair, where no more journalists dare to make an investigation because of intergovernmental agreements, whereas this affair deserves an investigation of the authorizations granted in high places for this operation (not only on the agents of the mission, but also on François Sarkozy, financial support and logistics for this mission).

I’m thinking of the challenge to the colonial policy of Israel which leads comedians like webmasters (alterinfos) to trials for anti-Semitism, when on the other side, certain subjects are served in all ways, including the most violent, to legitimize colonial policies: Iraq yesterday, Iran tomorrow, North Korea then?

And yes, even the web is affected, go see the site voltairenet.org, some will call him Bush conspirators to classify the journalists who work there on the list of supporters of terrorism (like Nelson Mandela, sic), but this alternative information issue News agencies from countries publicly criticized in Europe give another view of the conflicts. A vision which for Kosovo (start of the network) as for Iraq, it has often proven to be more accurate than the news from the French media (yes French newspapers too ...). Oddly enough, this site is attacked by pirates from all over the world every two weeks, and since Sarkozy's coming to power, French collaborators have left French territory.

[minguinhirigue]

The mainstream media has already lost part of the thread, and Sarko seems to want all the powers so that he can completely destroy them.

We may not be quite at the level of Fox News, but we rather do it in information avoidance: rather than transforming, we don't talk about it ...

[Remundo]

Do not prevent Sarko he begins to be a little "pity" (not in the pejorative sense I am sincere) it shows in his eyes: he has "trouble" at the moment ...

It is true that he looks exhausted. But there is nothing working right now ... we are paying 30 years of industrial scuttling, disastrous energy policy (except nuclear, but is it really a panacea), and also a strongly Latin French culture in the wrong sense of the term: no anticipation, indiscipline, idleness, chronic constestations, systematic search for conflict rather than consensus ...

If you add to all that the stock market crises and the tensions on the oil, give a good twist and you have a perfect funny face soup there.

Here, I prepared that to make clear what I meant ...

You will find for each OECD country, which typically includes all developed nations, the annual balance of wealth creation per capita in US $ in 2007.

More precisely, it involves dividing the balance of payments by the number of inhabitants of each country. It gives an excellent idea on the seriousness of a country, that is, its ability to sell more than it buys, in other words, its production of real wealth (GDP is a particularly incomplete indicator ...).

You will see that:
- Of the first 18 countries (which are in surplus), only Brazil is of Latin-Spanish culture and figures in 18th place there (and still a few years ago, it was in deficit because it did not sell its cane juice in a timely manner with the oil spike ...)

Of these 18 surplus countries, 17 are of Nordic or Asian culture. Apart from Japan, the Top 12 is largely dominated by Nordic and Germanic...

- of the remaining 19, some being ultra-defective (us !!), a majority of them are Latin. Anglo-Saxons also appear there including the USA. But for the US, we should not trust it because they are dumping with military spending to control oil, well followed in this by the English ...

Look at France !! 24th behind the Czech Republic, Poland, India ...

The little French burn almost 500 Euros each year while the Deutsch put 3100 (powerful industry) aside and the Norwegians 12500 (hydraulic production + oil export)

What put ideas back in place ... Nordic values ​​and their peaceful and pragmatic ways of working are the way to go ... If there was one example among the examples where to take inspiration, it would be Scandinavia and Germany ...

My xls file
https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... LfjucY.xls

My sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... population
http://stats.oecd.org/wbos/Index.aspx?d ... de=MEI_BOP
http://www.ecb.eu/mopo/eaec/html/index.en.html

[Remundo]

And after the figures, a little literature ...

http://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/ba ... and.127565

A competitive disinflation policy

According to Marion Cochard, an economist at the OFCE, the difference in figures between the two countries is explained by the policy conducted across the Rhine.

To improve its trade balance, Germany has been engaged since the early 2000s in a competitive disinflation policy with the reduction of wage costs. In return for a decrease in purchasing power, the country has revived its competitiveness on the international market, becoming the main competitor of France.

Conversely, France has chosen maintain a generous salary policy and encourage household consumption.

Here we go, cheekily caricatured ...

The Germans tighten their belts and work harder than the others to stay ahead of everyone for a long time, and then eat "groBe gute Würste" well and work less ... The Germans would open their veins to maintain their industries and their financial influence.

the French widen their deficit by continuing to live above their means (salaries and public aid) and will permanently fall behind everyone, therefore "shit" for a while. The French take pleasure in denigrating the industry and deriding the devastating power of any banknote, in connection with the wicked Sarko and the ugly CAC40.

What do you think ?

PS I am completely French, in the middle of the mountains among the French and I shit like the others ...

[Christine]

Wow! All these paintings and these speeches to prove to us that the Germans are eaters of "groBe gute Würste" and the Auvergne of big stingy and narrow-minded pequenots.

Finally, it is well in the continuity of the previous speeches which demonstrated that the Africans are lazy who think only of kissing and having children rather than working.

Poor France!

And to say that the public service entrusts our children to him ...

[Remundo]

Yep, and it works pretty well ... 95% eligible for engineering competitions this year in a ZEP. Several eligibility on Centrale Supelec note bank. A few major students also eligible for middle schools (ie having had good enough written grades to exempt them from taking the oral tests)

For the "groBe Würste", it's a joke ...

Ah, I forgot ...

"Bof, that's not what will solve
- our dependence on oil
- co2 emissions
"
"Bof, that's not what will solve
- our dependence on oil
- co2 emissions
"

Bof, bof, that's a word that seems to suit you well. But that is not enough, we must add acerbic qualifiers ...

For the Auvergne pequenots and stingy, narrow-minded, irresponsible, to immediately resign from their functions, this information is not the subject of my statistics, but your very high degree of analysis brought these ideas out of nowhere.

Christine, you do not change, always the insult on the edge of the lips and hollow interventions ...

We may not agree with someone and respect them at the same time ... Apparently, that is beyond you ....

[bham]

According to Marion Cochard, an economist at the OFCE, the difference in figures between the two countries is explained by the policy conducted across the Rhine.

To improve its trade balance, Germany has been engaged since the early 2000s in a competitive disinflation policy with the reduction of wage costs. In return for a decrease in purchasing power, the country has revived its competitiveness on the international market, becoming the main competitor of France.

Conversely, France has chosen maintain a generous salary policy and encourage household consumption.

Well, I’m still baba
In which areas is Germany competing with France?
Did Germany need to lower its wage costs to compete with France? I don't believe it for a second.
And then as a cross-border worker I don't have the impression that German wage costs have been lowered so much.
And then "generous salary policy", poof, poof !! I even recently heard on TV (on FR5) a business man say the opposite, namely that even as a capitalist, he advocated higher wages in France.
So to say that wages must be lowered for the economy to get better is to play the game of MEDEF.

The French are widening their deficit by continuing to live above their means (salaries and public aid) and will permanently fall behind everyone, therefore "shit" for a while. The French take pleasure in denigrating the industry and deriding the devastating power of the smallest note, in connection with the wicked Sarko and the ugly CAC40.

What do you think ?..

What wages are you talking about?
Besides, we do not denigrate your sacrosanct industry, it is necessary and we have nothing against, we denigrate capitalist excesses, I quote you "The lure of gain, cowardice, the most abject cynicism are always present in all these big financial scandals ". The fault is human nature ok, but capitalism at the service of human perversity.
The ugly CAC40 is ugly only when there is extremism which leads to relocations, layoffs, deplorable working conditions to further fatten the big shareholders, those who generate the rise in the prices of raw materials, food or oil and who do not never have enough. As for the "bad guy" Sarko, let's say that we quickly saw what his relations were and what side he was on (well it's not a problem once we know it)) but that under cover of savings to be made , because of a "colossal" debt, he chained reforms at speed V which, strangely, would lead to a privatization of services, as in the USA. And that no one comes to me talk about free competition and better purchasing power with privatized services, it is bullshit to which one should especially not adhere.
We see it in the US with pensions and their pension funds that make the rain and the good weather on the stock exchanges, which buy a company to better liquidate it, .... etc.

[Remundo]

Ah well here is a constructive answer. Thanks Bham!

Germany has effectively reduced its wage costs and tightened the unemployment scheme, without guaranteeing the minimum wage, while at the same time France has increased the minimum wage, several times revalued.
see http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9formes_Hartz
et http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/econ ... 570.FR.php

Germany has considerably tightened its health insurance policy, while at the time in France, the CAM hole was let slip.

See also the competition of CAM in Germany, while at the same time proposing my implementation of complementary funded by private.
http://www.ladocumentationfrancaise.fr/ ... agne.shtml
paragraphs "balance sheet reforms"

All this simmered by a government ... socialist, and now social union / center right.

So to say that wages must be lowered for the economy to get better is to play the game of MEDEF.

I would say to you on that that you are right, but the situation is more subtle than that ... The first big problem for France is that its Industry does not produce much and that in parallel, its social insurance system consumes a lot of money. Tensions on wages are therefore immediate. And MEDEF / union conflicts are becoming violent. We are there: lack of anticipation and search for conflict.

Le 2nd big problem is that these generous social systems combined with low wages generate a lot of idle behavior. This was not lost on the Harz IV reform, nor on the English, who have a very harsh system for the unemployed ...

Even under Sarko, we are still in France in these assistantship paradigms since we offer the unemployed or long-term RMIS to combine RSA and salary for some time ... What about SMICARD poorly paid who is 20 years old? No bonus for him ...

Le 3rd big problem is that this state of affairs leaves us in a spiral of over-indebtedness which I do not see how to get out without restrictions for everyone, at least up to the upper middle class. This is why the Deutsch "bled", not to enter it because they know very well that one does not leave any more if one puts there even if only the little finger just behind the point of no return .

Besides, we do not denigrate your sacrosanct industry, it is necessary and we have nothing against, we denigrate capitalist excesses, I quote you "The lure of gain, cowardice, the most abject cynicism are always present in all these big financial scandals ". The fault is human nature ok, but capitalism at the service of human perversity.

Crazy capitalism is as dangerous as the planned economy and Stalin's race to the bottom. Simply put, in any system, the danger comes from what you do with it. And all systems are easily perverted by the stupidity of men.

On relocations, it is very easy to accuse "the big shareholder". It turns out that in general, the consumer is often a shareholder and turns to the cheapest products ... therefore those manufactured in offshore factories, mainly in China ...

As you have seen, Sarko likes to shine with good society, but his policy is not frankly liberal. I would call it centrist with a social tendency. Moreover, many social liberals, even European democrats (Spain, Germany and England) are much harder on their health care system, wages and unemployment than the proposals of the current government.

It is this cliché "Sarko = hard right" which amuses me when no one is outraged (at least not many people) in France by the Schröder reforms or the hyperpressurized system of British unemployment, and that the government is largely open to left-wing sensibilities.

On the other hand, we get excited at France 3 considering that we have all the legitimacy not to greet the President of all the French...

Sorry for the length of the post ... To make me forgive, for the US, I agree with you, and to relax the atmosphere a little, here is a little joke that will relax the atmosphere ...

[Christine]

Yep, and it works pretty well ... 95% eligible for engineering competitions this year in a ZEP. Several eligibility on Centrale Supelec note bank. A few major students also eligible for middle schools (ie having had good enough written grades to exempt them from taking the oral tests)

Precisely, this is not an open-minded guarantee

For the "groBe Würste", it's a joke ...

Humor does not prevent remaining respectful

Ah, I forgot ...

"Bof, that's not what will solve
- our dependence on oil
- co2 emissions
"
"Bof, that's not what will solve
- our dependence on oil
- co2 emissions
"

Bof, bof, that's a word that seems to suit you well. But that is not enough, we must add acerbic qualifiers ...

Know that there are two things that irritate me most:
- 2nd place: stupidity
- 1st place: stupidity that believes itself intelligent

It turns out that not only do you hold first place, but in addition you are absolutely impervious to any reasoning that is not yours. Even your "Ah well that's a constructive answer. Thank you Bham! Cool" are proof of your disrespect for others. The other speakers are not children to whom the know-it-all teacher spouts condescending remarks.

So in front of so much stupidity, the only possible attitude is not to enter your game of pseudo-arguments-pseudo intelligent. But at the same time, we cannot let go of certain enormities, as much on the stereotypes, prejudices as in posture and expression.

So yes, it is for all these reasons that I take you head on, and not at all for the taste of insults. I also point out that you are the only one to benefit from this particular treatment and it seems to me that no other forumeur had nothing to complain about (except maybe one with whom the relations were hard at the start but whose behavior quickly changed and who proved to be a very precious contributor to this forum and for whom my distrust from the beginning has been commuted with great respect - dare I say in sympathy? )

To close this chapter, I am willing to admit that you do not know me elsewhere and I am willing to concede that this is why you suppose me to have a "bof bof" and insulting temperament (and I am also sure that you do not read my posts only diagonally, just looking for confirmation of the prejudices you have about me - woman, not engineer ... without interest, in short). But I guess it is useless to point out that if I were like this I wouldn't be on this forum for a long time, I would not take the head to try to make you react to get you out of your certainties, and if you can appreciate spending time on "econology", it is precisely also thanks to my "character" .

For the Auvergne pequenots and stingy, narrow-minded, irresponsible, to immediately resign from their functions, this information is not the subject of my statistics, but your very high degree of analysis brought these ideas out of nowhere.

it's a joke ... I thought I had put myself at your level ... but it's still too subtle, it seems.

Christine, you do not change, always the insult on the edge of the lips and hollow interventions ...

We may not agree with someone and respect them at the same time ... Apparently, that is beyond you ....

Start by learning that respect is a feeling and a deep and sincere attitude, not a few phrases like "you're right but ... I am always more right than the others" Respect must come from the bottom of your personality and to speak sincerely towards the personality of others. It is not just the silence of others in front of what you say.
It's if your personality is respectable that others will respect you