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by the middle » 04/08/11, 11:22

Janic wrote:Whether one is for or against the conspiracy theory there remains something that raises questions when we see the immense precautions taken by fireworks to demolish a building, and even more so a tower, so that it collapses vertically (see the emissaries demolissuers of the extreme) and there as if by chance, 3 gigantic towers collapse to perfection without artifices? Well done, champions the architects who can now do without fireworks since a few thousand liters of kerosene at the top of the towers are enough.

For me, this remark is common sense itself.
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by perplex » 04/08/11, 13:11

lejustemilieu wrote:
Janic wrote:Whether one is for or against the conspiracy theory there remains something that raises questions when we see the immense precautions taken by fireworks to demolish a building, and even more so a tower, so that it collapses vertically (see the emissaries demolissuers of the extreme) and there as if by chance, 3 gigantic towers collapse to perfection without artifices? Well done, champions the architects who can now do without fireworks since a few thousand liters of kerosene at the top of the towers are enough.

For me, this remark is common sense itself.
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You will not forget either the planes and the 2 dead that must be added, as in all well-conducted experiments, otherwise we do something else.
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by Obamot » 04/08/11, 15:21

One can understand the reluctance of some, who consider that the unsustainable idea of ​​the sacrifice of innocent people would necessarily tip the scales towards the official thesis.

Now drawn from this same reasoning, this massacre is just as unsustainable in the eyes of practicing Muslims (many of whom are among the victims), who categorically refute the attribution of the 9/11 attacks "to a plot of Muslims against the West», Since these religions are just as banished acts.

Thus, the instrumentalization of the victims cannot be done, neither by the one, nor by the other. Only a thorough investigation and the arrest of the alleged sponsor could have raised any suspicion.

Norway did not see fit to shoot Andres Behring Breivik after the Utoeya massacre. She was thus entitled to many revelations which allow criminology to progress.
Besides the fact that it could have been interpreted as suspect on the part of a part of the opinion, to have killed it by a kind of retaliation law would have moreover suggested that we already knew everything about the author of the massacre . However, it is certain that in this type of situation, one will never know enough.

In terms of "the unsustainable": what are still worth:
- the testimonies extorted by force from Guantanamo (are they worthy on the part of a state claiming to be the global guarantor of "democracy")?
- secret prisons with people kidnapped, arrested and interned without trial or investigation and under the beard of sovereign states?
- the practice of such "Justice»Of exception, which flouts the most basic rules of law, such as human rights of the UN, to which America is a signatory.
- the fact of having started wars making hundreds of thousands of victims, even before having finished the investigation !!!
- the summary execution of the alleged sponsor of the September 11 attacks? Besides, did he have nothing more to reveal than the special forces and the White House already knew? Was it no longer useful to permanently dismantle Al Quaeda or we wanted to silence it definitively to avoid it revealing some acquaintances and / or some betrayal / s with which it / it would have been mixed?
(I stop there because the list is long)

Let's look at the deep motives
How could all these huge drifts - besides without any redemptive effect to be expected vis-à-vis the designated fanatics - have any justification that would tip the scales towards "friendly».

And first of all, what does it mean to be on the side of the "good guys"? Defend the “market economy” which slowly destroys the planet and leads to the systematic fragmentation of societies? To impose by excess the globalization of the markets? Go and assassinate via punitive expeditions, those who oppose the unique paradigm of the stock market via the "Vulture Funds", so called in Africa: these "scavengers of the market economy", who will assassinate and wage war for purely economic reasons.

Which side are the "friendly", And what do we blame for"wicked"? One day will it be necessary to take stock?

Can we still say that forced globalization is the panacea for combating all forms of oppression? And should it necessarily impose itself as an absolute rule of conduct, on the entire planet?

For someone who believes in the rule of law, it is difficult to answer all this in a Manichean way, but one thing remains. Faith in the official thesis is a relatively untenable position. Where then there must be serious arguments which must exceed the force of intimate conviction.

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by sen-no-sen » 04/08/11, 20:31

Obamot wrote:Which side are the "friendly", And what do we blame for"wicked"? One day will it be necessary to take stock?


Indeed, and you do well to put quotes, the notion of "good guys" and "bad guys" derives from the notion of "good" and "bad" whose definition remains very relative and defined by the culture of the moment. .
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