Tesla Powerwall: profitable?

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Re: Tesla Powerwall: profitable?




by Christophe » 13/01/20, 21:31

sicetaitsimple wrote:via the increase in transmission / distribution tariffs.
We saw it a short time ago on I don't know which wire via the detail of your electricity bill.


Ah ah ah let's talk about distribution and transport!

The real detail of my (Belgian) invoice here it is !!

This is the very last regularization invoice for December 2019 ... I started my PV installation in May 2019, hence consumption at 0 in summer!


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The cost of distribution and transport therefore ALREADY represents 160.54 / 264.98 = 60.5% of the price excluding tax! So these stories of problem of costs of transport distribution because of the ugly photovoltaic make me laugh ...
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by plasmanu » 13/01/20, 21:56

Yes I have 2 counters, 3 even: the non-consumption one which stays at zero and which is useless.
The installer told me that the production meter is blocked at night because of the clever little ones who connect the wires of the consumption meter directly and blow up the ceiling directly. And that sometimes if the panels are under a public lamppost it produces a little.
Edf buys half the price with the new contracts, but I think the installation costs half the price too. PV prices have dropped significantly since then.

And when I say sell for 5,5c € it's in 11 years. It is a hypothesis without doing anything on my part. If I rent the house for example
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by Christophe » 13/01/20, 22:12

plasmanu wrote:but I think the installation is half the cost too. PV prices have dropped significantly since then.


Exact and even less than half! My installation of 2019 cost me € 1,65 per Wc ... all inclusive but with a little self-construction (I made the connection to the board myself for example) ...

The installation on slate represents almost half of the costs ... I would have had tiles I could have made myself and I would have reduced by at least 25% more (because you have to buy the fixings and the price of the stainless fixings is quite exorbitant I think ... for what it is!) ...

So we could arrive at a real cost of less than 1.2 € / Wp..not bad right? So easily profitable without any help!

Ah yes, I understand that it pisses off the world! : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

For bad tongues and whores, the installation has been certified by the competent authority! So no need to go through a pro who does everything to make it up to standards ... you just have to know how to get it right!

plasmanu wrote:And when I say sell for 5,5c € it's in 11 years. It is a hypothesis without doing anything on my part. If I rent the house for example


Oh yes okay!

ps: it's not an integrated installation ...
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by plasmanu » 13/01/20, 22:21

If on steel tank cut in the canalites.
I too had to connect the wires to the production meter. In front of the EDF agent who refused.
Because in the cellar these idiots of small young people had inverted the 2 wires output inverter. And for the EDF agent, the neutral goes there and not otherwise and refused to reverse to see and it didn't work. I reversed and miracle. It's good when you have a 2/XNUMX chance and try twice.
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by Christophe » 13/01/20, 22:23

I meant my installation is not integrated ... hence the lower cost!

plasmanu wrote:It's good when you have a 2/XNUMX chance and try twice.


Ha ha ha!

You're a comic! : Cheesy:
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by plasmanu » 13/01/20, 22:30

: Mrgreen:
Suddenly the phase is on the neutral, and fills the spell, the neutral is on the phase. I left like this ...
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by plasmanu » 13/01/20, 22:41

I have German solar panels for my 3100Wp
Today is the cheapest:
€ 94 including port for 150W aluminum chassis panel
Mc4 connectors
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/01/20, 22:59

Christophe wrote:Well lost! Because if the PV now represents a large part of the CSPE it is precisely because it has been subsidized handsomely in France at more than 400% (see the invoice of plasmanu above: 63 cents vs 15 cents real price) and in no case because of the counter which turns backwards which represents a blow for the community much lower than the subsidies !!!


Absolutely correct, but discuss it with Remundo and Plasmanu, not with me.
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by plasmanu » 13/01/20, 23:14

I had 6000 or 8000 € of tax credit which I put directly in less of the credit.
But no more tax credit for something else after that.
The previous one was for my dual combustion stove.
Now if. I can start thermal insulation work. As soon as my ex drops the case with the notary. And as soon as I finish letting go full full of € to this one
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/01/20, 23:32

Christophe wrote:I started my PV installation in May 2019, hence consumption at 0 in summer! [/ b]


It's the magic side! We do not consume anything in summer coming from the network, even when the sun is down, and without storage!
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