Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?

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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 29/09/22, 09:06

Well if there will be a Neutral...in common NPN or not PNP...that is to say that it is necessary to bridge 2 of the 3 phases...towards 1 P or 1 N...

Above all, don't forget to remove the bridge when putting the sorting back on!! : Mrgreen: I just bought a TRI source inverter so no worries :)
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 29/09/22, 09:45

I have just measured the 2 "phases" with respect to the Earth of the house:

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And compared to "nothing at all" (any mass) it gives this:

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So it's a little further from a nice sine Phase and a nice flat Neutral there : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: especially the 83 Hz : Shock: : Shock: ...I will do the same with the network...

I remind you that the inverter is, for the moment, not connected to ground...(and normally it's not supposed to be, with the first it changed the values ​​on the multimeter...)
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 01/10/22, 13:11

Repair in progress, I will put the 560 µF:

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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by phil59 » 01/10/22, 13:15

And does it fit in the box? does it look a bit taller?
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 01/10/22, 13:17

Barely, but yes... anyway, I won't close the case during the next tests! : Mrgreen:
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 01/10/22, 14:16

It's done, I also reinforced the contact of one of the terminals (red arrow) which seemed "light" to me...

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Funny the old condo "pivoted" when it was still welded! Cooked home cooked he was! : Mrgreen:

ps: it lacks 3 mm to finally close... : Cry:
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 01/10/22, 15:50

The inverter is restarting...

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Oscilloscope measurements (sorry but I can't switch to x10 it's supposed to be automatic via the probe but it doesn't work...so you have to multiply all the values ​​in Volts by 10):

1) Grid and Grid vs Ground measured at the output/input of my solar inverter

I remember that I am three-phase without neutral.

Between phases:

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Phase 1 - Earth:

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Phase 2 - Earth:

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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 01/10/22, 15:57

2) Repaired inverter output:

Between phases, it is clean:

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Phase 1 - Earth:

It's cleaner than the other inverter (note the water box was not grounded)...

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Phase 2 (Neutral) - Earth:

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I took several captures because it was moving a lot on the "neutral"...

This inverter seems to do a "true" neutral...look at the frequencies it's very fast and the Vrms are low so it looks like disturbances...

Reminder: the case of this inverter is connected to the ground (the other inverter was not on the previous measurements) and for the moment, I cannot compare I no longer have it at hand...
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by phil59 » 01/10/22, 16:33

So the damage, just condos to change?
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Re: Solar inverter on generator or on battery inverter?




by Christophe » 01/10/22, 17:25

Apparently…yes as I hoped but I still have to test with a load…

The output voltage took 5 minutes to rise to 220V…I don't know if it's because the capacitor is new or bigger than the original one?

And for the curves?
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