electricity from EdF increase 2011 (CSPE)

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by Christophe » 27/10/10, 17:39

If it reminds me that we should have voted neither on the left nor on the right in 2007 ...

When you don't know you always have to put in the center ... : Cheesy:
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by Remundo » 27/10/10, 18:08

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because the miyeux is wonderful : Cheesy:

Edit by christophe: les imaaaaaaaaaaaages stp ...
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by Remundo » 28/10/10, 10:36

Let's get back serious with a reaction from ENERPLAN relayed by André Joffre / Tecsol
Enerplan says solar electricity is falsely accused in the context of the increase in the price of electricity

Hint that the deficit in the Contribution to the Public Electricity Service (CSPE) - 1,6 billion euros at the end of 2010 - would have to be charged to the purchase cost of solar electricity, which would justify the increase in the price of electricity from 3 to 4% from 2011, is an injustice.

The Energy Regulatory Commission (CRE) notes in its 2009 activity report about the 2010 projected costs for the CSPE, "a significant increase in costs related to the purchase obligation evaluated at nearly 1 million €, including 528 M € for renewable energies.

Charges linked to tariff equalization are also increasing and amount to € 918 million ”.

The CSPE deficit, which has flourished for a few years, is therefore not burdened by the development of solar electricity in France - marginal before 2009 and still not significant in 2010/11 - but is impacted among other things by the cogeneration subsidy (€ 828 million in 2008, € 521 million in 2009, € 668 million in 2010), or by provisional charges linked to TarTAM (return to a semi-regulated tariff for companies that have entered the free market and returned to shelter under national solidarity) estimated by CRE of € 361,7 million in 2010.

Photovoltaics, with less than 800 MW connected by the end of 2010, should hardly weigh in the CSPE for 120 M € this year, according to CRE. The figures are stubborn and cannot blame the financial burden of photovoltaics, to justify the next increase in electricity.

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We must have a transparent approach to financial issues, holistically to take into account all of the externalities, not linked to the cost of developing electricity production from renewable sources, which will increase the French electricity bill.

Enerplan, a professional solar energy organization, requests this transparency to enlighten the French and not let them believe that the catching-up of the CSPE in 2011 was due to the purchase of solar electricity. Charging photovoltaics again is both unfair and unfounded.

Recall that the share of photovoltaics in the CSPE will cost in 2010 to an average household - which consumes 3500 kWh / year - less than one euro per year, and hardly much more in 2011: we are very far from the need to increase the price of electricity by 3 to 4% to finance solar kWh.

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by jlt22 » 28/10/10, 14:04

An expansion article:

http://energie.lexpansion.com/energies- ... -5062.html

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The government has in fact accepted an amendment to the finance bill allowing the tax on "contribution to the public service of electricity" (CSPE) to be raised. This tax intended to promote wind and solar energies could drop from 4,50 to 7,50 euros per MWh, from January if the government does not expressly oppose it by a decree before December 31.

If this measure is confirmed, the electricity prices of individuals who already underwent a first increase of 3,4% on August 15, 2010 (*) will therefore again increase by 3 to 4%.

This is just the beginning and the price of electricity will explode with increases well above 20%, notably due to the price of off-shore wind which will be even higher than expected.

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It would seem that the CSPE would also concern wind power, and that the upward dynamic is well underway.

Another article which explains to us that renewable energies weigh the least in the CSPE:

http://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/ne ... 11245.php4

(...) Renewable energies questioned

This increase does not delight the Confédération Syndicale des Families (CSF) knowing that the rates have already increased last summer: it is not acceptable that all consumers, including the most modest, finance photovoltaic installations for the benefit of a few some or finance industrial activities at such high rates of return.

The development of renewable energies is indeed one of the causes cited by some to justify this increase. The Syndicat des Energies Renouvelables recalls, however, that this CSPE makes it possible to counteract a certain number of additional costs among which the financing of electricity production from gas cogeneration, tariff equalization, that is to say the fact that consumers French overseas departments and territories pay the same tariff to metropolitan consumers despite the higher cost of producing electricity, and the financing of renewable electric energy (wind and photovoltaic). For 2010, the Energy Regulatory Commission estimated that the financing of renewable energies weighs for 24% of the tax when gas cogeneration weighs 32% and tariff equalization 41%. Historically, it is tariff equalization and gas cogeneration that capture the largest part of the public service load of electricity, explains the SER.
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by Christophe » 28/10/10, 17:51

Finally 2 articles that restore a suspicion of truth ... but that does not change the lies told about solar ...

But it's not conditional: the CSPE also finances wind power well, see pie charts above!

Ditto for the weight of renewable energies: see pie charts above!
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by bamboo » 29/10/10, 14:50

Christophe wrote:
Remundo wrote:A further rise of 4 2011% in the electricity tariff in France


Still, not quite expensive my son : Mrgreen:

I just discovered this subject, and I agree 100% with Christophe: it must let it be more expensive.
Only the attack on the wallet encourages moderation in consumption.
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by Christophe » 29/10/10, 14:58

Yes in principle but in practice and in this case, it is a little (a lot) annoying to put the sun in scapegoat ...
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by bamboo » 29/10/10, 15:14

Christophe wrote:Yes in principle but in practice and in this case, it is a little (a lot) annoying to put the sun in scapegoat ...

Yes. I only spoke about the tariff
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by Remundo » 29/10/10, 15:50

Corinne LEPAGE unzips nuclear power and also recalls a few facts...
Increase in the price of electricity: the user is requested to finance EDF's errors

The announcement of the rise in the price of electricity illustrates both the consumed art of lying with regard to the alleged massive financing of renewable energies and the marked incompetence of French political decision-makers with regard to energy policy.

The price of electricity is lower in France than in many European countries. This historic and deliberate choice was intended to encourage electric heating to ensure the sale of nuclear power in excess capacity.

The taxpayer has indeed Future investments will result in an increase in the price of electricity.

While there is a debate on the rise in the price of electricity, Jacques Percebois, director of the Center for Research in Economics and Energy Law at the University of Montpellier, reviews the evolution of the components of this price financed EDF's investments and benefits from them today, even if this policy has made us lose 30 years in terms of energy efficiency and 20 years in terms of development of renewable energies.

Today, the French choice is the opposite of the German choice and will widen our industrial, economic, commercial and financial deficits in an abysmal way.

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La rise in the price of electricity is not intended to allow the financing of renewable energies... For the simple reason that the government is bent on preventing their development and destroying them if they nevertheless manage to grow.

[] the solar sector and more specifically photovoltaics, the feed-in tariffs of which have just been drastically lowered at the same time as the tax advantage attached to them was considerably reduced.

We risked reaching the 2012 objectives in 2020! What a catastrophe !In addition, there was a risk of seeing a French industrial sector appear which could have claimed to be treated like a French employer ... what a scandal!

Fund the status quo

Hence haro on the "speculation" of the solar after the descent into flame of the wind turbine guilty of disfiguring the beautiful landscapes of France wonderfully respected by nuclear power plants and the high-voltage line corridors they generate.

The rise in electricity prices is therefore presented as the need to offset the cost of purchasing green energy. False. For 2010, the Energy Regulatory Commission recalls that the financing of renewable energies weighs for 24% of the tax when gas cogeneration weighs 32% and tariff equalization 41%.

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But it is above all the financing of the fiasco represented by the EPR, the cost of which has increased by 50%, as well as the cost of the works necessary to extend the life of the power plants. And this is where French politics is the opposite of German politics, registered in the 80st century and which aims to cover 50% of its electricity needs and 2050% of its energy needs thanks to renewable energies by 20. The funding amounting to 60 billion euros per year will be financed by the public and by nuclear power plant operators since XNUMX% of the profits generated by extending the life of the power plants will go to the State in the form of taxes or investments in renewable energies.

In France, it's exactly the opposite. The user is requested to finance the extension of the life of the power stations. Nuclear is responsible for preventing the development of renewable sectors and thus the user not only does not finance the renewable sectors by increasing prices but finances their progressive burial.

Ultimately, the French citizen loses three times:

- he pays more (6% in 6 months, 6% in 6 months adding to the previous increases, i.e. the Gadonneix plan which had at least been honest enough to recognize that the price increase was for nuclear investments) and loses the benefit of the annuity which he nevertheless paid as a taxpayer

- it does not finance the development of French supply chains and is doomed to nuclear inside or importing sources and green electricity

- it is exposed to an increasing nuclear risk due to the pressure exerted by the operators to reduce costs, and therefore safety, to reduce the requirements of the Definition of “Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN)” ASN, on behalf of the State, regulates and controls the nuclear safety and radiation protection in France to protect workers, patients, the public and the environment from the risks associated with the use of nuclear power. It contributes to informing ... Read the ASN definition on the conditions for renewing power plants and building the EPR.

This is without doubt what our great leaders call sustainable development!

Corinne LEPAGE
Lawyer, former Minister of the Environment, President of Cap21.

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by Did67 » 27/11/10, 18:41

To update: this week, a small verse to the news (France2) to announce + 11% in 2011 to finance the renewal of the park ....
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