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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by phil59 » 15/11/23, 20:52

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Remundo wrote:if we believe the figures announced, that's 7,64 cents including tax per kWh, a lot of nonsense when you need a kWh for 15-20 cents on the network!

Did you know when you signed them that your contracts at €500/600/MWh had a duration of 20 years?
So don't come crying now, French consumers have already largely paid for your installations.


It's true, but why weren't we stupid enough to take this lucrative financial abyss?

Yes, I forgot, at the time, it seemed risky, and we preferred to buy candles....

With 2.5 kWp, the unused amount is not huge compared to the use.

Losing 1000 kWh returned to "EDF", is little compared to the 1500 kWh, used, not paid for....
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by Remundo » 15/11/23, 21:15

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Remundo wrote:if we believe the figures announced, that's 7,64 cents including tax per kWh, a lot of nonsense when you need a kWh for 15-20 cents on the network!

Did you know when you signed them that your contracts at €500/600/MWh had a duration of 20 years?
So don't come crying now, French consumers have already largely paid for your installations.

do you know how much they pay with ARENH, smart guy?

and nuclear-gaso-charcoal in addition...
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by Remundo » 15/11/23, 21:17

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Except that it's better than nothing and that no individual has management costs like the French operator. Try again. : Mrgreen:

network management costs, I probably participate more than you.

Ignorant.
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 15/11/23, 22:17

I was talking about what it costs, not who pays, you moron!
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by Remundo » 15/11/23, 22:26

and who pays “what it costs” in your opinion? RTE’s philanthropy or Enedis’ generosity?

As usual, you oscillate between provocation, omission and unintelligible pirouette.
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 15/11/23, 22:31

It's more you who hasn't understood much for a while, and who is going around in a loop. You are paying a heavy price during the covid period. : Shock:
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by sicetaitsimple » 15/11/23, 22:37

Remundo wrote:[
network management costs, I probably participate more than you.

Ignorant.

What more do you pay, apart from the management costs linked to the metering of the energy you inject?
How much does that represent per year?
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by Remundo » 15/11/23, 22:42

to return to the subject, our friend tells us that we are going to buy his solar electricity for 7,64 ct€/kWh when the network parity is at 15-20 ct€/kWh.

The kWh is sold even more expensive to customers over 36 kVA who are not under the protection of the “tariff shield”, up to 110 ct€/kWh
Why an increase in prices on the wholesale electricity market?

We see that the price of electricity in €/MWh on the European wholesale electricity market jumped in 2021. To be more precise, the price of Calendar 20222 even more than doubled, to exceed in December 2021, for the first time in its history, the symbolic bar of €400/MWh. The 2023 Calendar remained at a very high level in 2022, reaching a peak at the end of August 2022 at more than 1100 €/MWh. At the end of 2022, Calendar 2023 fell below €300/MWh, which remains very high.

Source EDF
An honest proposal would be a purchase of the kWh at grid parity price <36 kVA, which allows the depreciated power plants to continue their life while providing renewable and clean electricity at a competitive price.

The costs of managing and maintaining the electricity network are already financed by the connected customers, whether they are consumers or producers, or both.
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by izentrop » 16/11/23, 10:31

phil59 wrote:If someone buys me 208€ net, my productio, I prefer not to resell anything, and to use everything (a good part with a "router", which will heat the water of a cumulus for free, more than 200€ per year , even as 2 people)
more than 1000 kWh, you better insulate it.
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Re: Purchase of solar energy




by Remundo » 16/11/23, 11:41

The question of the end of the solar purchase obligation contract seems to be vast and not yet very clear...

here are the possible avenues
1) Switch to self-consumption
2) Valorize the surplus

Source: Solar in the North

It seems that "clean" electricity suppliers are offering new purchase contracts under probably very volatile conditions...
Resale to another supplier

You are free to sign a new contract with another supplier, for example from Enercoop, Urban Solar Energy or ekWateur.

‍Signing an EDF OA contract is interesting provided you complete the twenty-year period.

You can cancel it before the end, but most of the time compensation must be paid.

After twenty years, you have the choice of transferring your contract to another supplier, or consuming all of your production by storing it on a battery.

Source: NouvelR energie

rural installations where no one consumes electricity locally, or not enough compared to large roof areas will have to find buyers.
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