The real prices and costs of photovoltaic solar panels in China

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View bernardd » 08/09/11, 14:42

elephant wrote:Bernard said:

because it shows that these panels have better quality than the majority of panels available in Europe today.


Soft !


Well, it's not hard ;-)

The advantage of being based on measurement results is that it is verifiable: this is what is called science.

And that's why I'm looking for help with testing.

And if the figures are correct, 200W for 1580x808mm panels, it is among the best panels especially at this price.

It is clear to me that criticisms of the type "it's made in such and such a country so it's XXX", adapting XXX according to the country, it is not science and it could even say more than they do not want it on the authors of these assertions.
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View dedeleco » 08/09/11, 16:09

The Chinese have everything, good, bad, scams, and you have to test, not only the yield, but also the lifespan, which requires at least becoming a professional importer, with good financial flying.

This justifies the price tumble in part.
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View bernardd » 08/09/11, 17:02

dedeleco wrote:The Chinese have everything, good, bad, scams, and you have to test, not only the yield, but also the lifespan, which requires at least becoming a professional importer, with good financial flying.


We must stop the dramatization: there is less risk of breakdown on a panel than on a car, and with the prices we have now, compared to other prices available, we can afford to lose a panel.

We are talking about 3kWp of panels for 2600 € HT, or 3100TTC: if we were going to check the 1% energy efficiency on all cars more expensive than that, cities would smell the rose ...

And I'm not talking about scooters at 3l / 100km when they are set to the best.

By dint of criticism, we do not move forward.
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View Did67 » 11/09/11, 12:08

Me too !!!

However, when I express myself, and I add it sometimes, I express the opinion / knowledge of the average citizen that I am ... Nothing else.

Logically, everything forumeur who passes by there, not knowing me, will be free enough to think (sometimes "out loud" - see some clashes that I had with some): what is it stupid that one!

Another thing is a "report", or a website of an organization, an association, etc ...

They can be wrong in good faith, and correct ... It's honorable ..

Or they can manipulate. It starts by emphasizing a particular point (and forgetting everything).

Sometimes they just look for the buzz. It is already manipulating to surf on the perverse side of the media.

The question of the gray energies of PV is legitimate.

Emphasize this or that point, forgetting that glass, aluminum, we use it everywhere, without ever looking into the question of recycling (except maybe for cans!), Well, it is starting to be a bit ladle...

In short, quite agree with Bernard ...

And a new layer about my distrust of the energy-saving ayatollahs.
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View Alain G » 12/09/11, 05:11

That's it!

After the VHS 3X, the DVD 3X they finally released the PV 3X!
: Cheesy:
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View Remundo » 12/09/11, 12:52

at the moment, I have proposals for € 1,36 excl. tax / Wp delivered in France after European intermediaries.

for very small quantities of Chinese monocrystalline (less than 10 panels)

So there is no doubt that when leaving the factory, we are below 1 € / Wp.

Rather, this is good news for clean kWh. that means that solar PV will democratize !! 8)

I remind you that 3000 Wp cover the needs of a house. By counting inverter + MO, let's say that less than 10 000 € each house could have its small energy square.
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View Remundo » 13/09/11, 14:36

Additional insight into Chinese competition ...

Evergreen Solar bankruptcy in the US: $ 2 billion market capitalization
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Source: Usine Nouvelle from August 25, 2011
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View Christophe » 13/09/11, 14:40

These are the same info and figures as the article in the world at the origin of this subject!

I know I digitized cleanly but still ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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View Remundo » 13/09/11, 14:47

Sorry christophe

I hope I didn't "offend" you : Mrgreen:

But it seems that it is "folded" ... for the French :P
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View Christophe » 13/09/11, 14:52

Yeah well folded (hihihi) ... but it was predictable that prices would drop ...

The price pipetting by the subsidies (and their stopping) only made the thing more brutal ...

The Germans who were doing so far, are relocating ... to China ...

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