Reviews auto installation of a connected 3Kw kit ERDF

[fabio.gel]

Bonsoir

I have a project to install a photovoltaic KIT on the house and to connect it to the electrical network.
I first brought in a company to get an idea of ​​turnkey solution for a 3 Kw installed and connected with German equipment.
Result of races € 15000.
No tax credit for me (already used for windows, pellet stove and solar water heater).
After a good search on the net, I found a good kit (there may be better) on this site:
http://www.solaire-distribution.com/photovoltaique_injection_reseau/kit-photovoltaique-3kw-p-4.html



Price 5200 € + delivery costs to be expected.
So I decided to buy this Kit to mount it with a friend who is more knowledgeable than myself in having previously filled out the various paperwork (request for work, connection ...).
But before embarking on this adventure, I prefer to collect the opinion or experience of each.

Thank you

[BobFuck]

Is your thing certified by the appropriate standard?

In other words, an EDF technician cuts the current to intervene on the network. Does your inverter understand that it has to cut itself, or does it continue to inject, and then you go to jail?

[Forhorse]

It is possible but it will be necessary to have the installation checked by the consuel to obtain the purchase contract by EDF ... so pay attention to the skills of this friend.

[Obelix]

Hello,

Installing such a kit is not too difficult and can be done by the careful individual.
But on the administrative and insurance side it is absolutely not the same facilitated.
The declaration of work at your town hall will take you a good quarter and the file to be provided by an individual is copious.
Then the coming of the consuel will be a real obstacle course because you do not weigh much compared to a business.
Ditto for the authorization of connection on the part of ERDF with in addition the new meters to install, you are interested in keeping them warm.
Once all these odds and ends are resolved, the coming for use will keep you occupied for a few weeks.
And the icing on the cake, pay attention to insurance, especially the decennial and civil liability.

All this to tell you that the price still corresponds to some significant work not only technical but also administrative.
The cost is not only that of the panels and the inverter but also the three counters boxes the tow and the protections all being to the latest standards in force.

Obelix

[chatelot16]

at the price level you really found a cheap one ... but that doesn't inspire me with confidence ... the complete kit and cheaper per kWp than the panels alone on the same site

oddly the panels of the same power are not sold on the site

to buy a little thing that you use entirely yourself you can take risks ... but with the mess to connect by edf consuel and other ... it is better to call a pro who does everything and that only pay when it's completely over

alas this complexity comes at a cost that the professional charges

[loop]

Bonjour,

Look at this ad, it gives you an idea of ​​the purchase price of a kit by a professional:

http://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/355317601.htm?ca=19_s

This is good material.

For the type of contract you can choose:

The consumption
Sale of surplus
Total sale of production

The last 2 solutions are technically identical (2 meters) but the sale of the surplus is more "responsible" on an econological plan.

A+

[fabio.gel]

Thank you for your comments

So a priori the greatest difficulty will be of an administrative nature (it's astonishing it feels like in France ).

I will therefore put end to end the elements cited above:
For example the consuel cost: 162 € TTC

http://www.consuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/SC127_4_Tarif-Metropole-Non-Professionnel.pdf

For the file in town hall, I already practiced for the opening of my windows as well as my insulation and cladding from the outside.

For ERDF this is where it happens:

http://www.erdfdistribution.fr/Produire_de_l-electricite

Good at work, for insurance, call my insurer this morning.

Big thanks

Fabio

[fabio.gel]

Hello

I found a supplier of Photovoltaic equipment at reasonable prices.

http://helios-enrj.fr/noskits.html

This KIT looks good to me:

SOLRIF / Axitec Kit 3 kW

This kit includes:
-12 Axitec 250W Black modules
-1 Power-One PVI 3.0 inverter
- Solrif integration
- AC and DC electrical protection boxes
- the 4 mm² solar cable.

PRICE TTC: 9500 Euros (installation included). Layout: 3x4 landscape

Axitec panels look good

http://www.axitecsolar.com/module-photovoltaique-axipremium-60-monocristallin-systeme-integre-au-toit.html/

I don't know what the Power-One PVI 3.0 inverter is worth?

http://fr.power-one.com/renewable-energy/products/solar/string-inverters/aurora-uno/pvi-30-pvi-36-pvi-42/series


For integration Solrif a priori it is proven, it seems to me that Remundo used it.

[BobFuck]

3000 € per kWp is expensive.

If we count that a 1kWp panel produces 1000 kWh / year (to check with the sunshine data of the place where you are, it can vary between Spain and Belgium) ...

So, if there is a depreciation of 10 years, the kWh produced by the panels returns to 30c. 2x less if there is an amortization of 20 years. Compare with the rate at which you pay your kWh.

You can also say to yourself "in 5 years the panels will be at 1 € / Wp so I wait, install 3x more, and I swim in the electrons at discount prices" ...

[fabio.gel]

3000 € per kWp is expensive.

If we count that a 1kWp panel produces 1000 kWh / year (to check with the sunshine data of the place where you are, it can vary between Spain and Belgium) ...

So, if there is a depreciation of 10 years, the kWh produced by the panels returns to 30c. 2x less if there is an amortization of 20 years. Compare with the rate at which you pay your kWh.

You can also say to yourself "in 5 years the panels will be at 1 € / Wp so I wait, install 3x more, and I swim in the electrons at discount prices" ...

Hi bobfuck

I did a little simulation.

Hypothesis :

€ 9500 installation
7 year loan
Annual production of around 3584 Kw (probably optimistic)

With Calsol the return on investment would be 6.7 years



http://ines.solaire.free.fr/pvreseau_1.php



It is true that there is the cost of credit but by reinjecting the solar gain annually the duration can be further reduced.

Not forgetting the 30% increase in the cost of electricity
currently we are at 0.122 € Kwh TTc.