Retirement ... at what age?

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View chatelot16 » 24/10/10, 15:15

there is no need to close the borders, or to speak of autarky: to restart in France the manufacture of 10% of what we buy unnecessarily elsewhere would already be very positive: by choosing the stuff to manufacture we could do it without getting angry with the rest of the world and without breaking the system

it's not necessarily the cheapest Chinese thing to make first: you might as well take advantage of the gifts they give us by selling certain things at too low a price
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View dedeleco » 24/10/10, 15:24

if we let the rules of liberalism be imposed, we will have the consequence: social equality between French and Chinese ... if we refuse this social equality it will be worse: it will be complete decadence

so the choice is simple: liberalism and work at the Chinese tariff or get out of liberalism to make our country work our way

So retirement at 90, abolition of girls to have only one son who will take care of you very old, Chinese form of retirement !!


Long live competitive globalization from below, and the law imposed by those who tighten their belts to the max !!
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View sen-no-sen » 24/10/10, 15:47

This discussion is very interesting, in the end we understand that it is the whole of society and its functioning that is to be reformed.

What saddens me is to see that people are fighting to keep their gains in a system which is the very root of the problem, question: would they demonstrate, if they had everything they wanted?
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View chatelot16 » 24/10/10, 16:10

the current events are not only for retirement, but for a more serious problem that many do not know how to express clearly!

if the one who governs does not understand it, it is even more useless than we have already said ... and yet we have already celebrated it ...
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View Leo Maximus » 24/10/10, 16:26

jlt22 wrote:@chatelot16
According to your reasoning, France should live in self-sufficiency.
Frontiers closed to all imported products that we will be able to produce.

Starting with petroleum, uranium, natural gas, ... and since we have almost no coal left it would not be a return to the 19th century but a return to the Middle Ages! : Lol:
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View Leo Maximus » 24/10/10, 16:33

sen-no-sen wrote:Thanks for the links Leo Maximus.
In the last link you put, he mentions that Vietnam plans to build 4 nuclear reactors ... worrying.

Worried because there are two Russian reactors?
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View sen-no-sen » 24/10/10, 16:39

Quite simply worrying ... with such a spread of nuclear power plants in the world at the first conflict, we will have a beautiful nuclear omelet!
It will no longer be necessary to talk about retirement ... or the future!
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View chatelot16 » 24/10/10, 16:39

why always this great word of autarky!

I'm just talking about making a little more to use our free labor!

the Chinese have cheap labor but we have free labor! since paid by the community to do nothing

it is a scandal to see a government unable to make people of working age in the prime of life find nothing better than raising the retirement age

of course a change in retirement may be necessary to take account of demography ... but no need to talk about it before having resolved the main

as long as the problem of unemployment is not resolved one less pensioner and one more unemployed does nothing!
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View sen-no-sen » 24/10/10, 16:49

You are right chatelot16, but be aware that the sectors which generate jobs would require changes which are not compatible with the current political "orientations".

To know:
- 100% organic farming (which would generate nearly 1 million jobs).
- an industry focused on renewable energies (but which would overshadow the nuke).
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View chatelot16 » 24/10/10, 17:14

that the current political orientation is bad is not new!

I'm not talking about the right or the left because they did the same
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