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by Obamot » 14/11/15, 16:14

In the Bangkok bombing last summer, the government absolutely refused to use the word "terrorism".

This is what everyone should stop doing, don't feed the killer trolls, if we had done that from the start, we would not be there now. We wouldn't have advertised these bastard instru_mentalized (but bastards anyway). And today we wouldn't have had this tidal wave of refugees. Nor young people who dream of fighting to "become famous" by finding challenging terrain in the worst possible way. [Grilled by Christophe citing Desproges ...] : Arrowd:

Pierre Desproges wrote:"Martyrdom is the only way to become famous when you have no talent"


Shame on the governments that have killed culture, shame on the governments that have hardly cared for the youth of their country FOR 30 YEARS having been obsessed with stock market indices and "con_pétitivity". Shame on America (and its main ally) who play with the fire and stability of the Middle East as much in the end as with that of Europe, shame on NATO which was of no use, Shame on the UN, which was an instrument of war rather than of peace, shame those who claim to wage war in the name of a dogmatic ideology that has nothing to do with any religion. Shame on all these disbelievers.

But damn, when are European governments going to wake up and act : Shock:

Did67 wrote:For Daesch, who sticks to it?

How to stop a dictatorship?

Joker! For example the only answer that I would see is to do as for the banks: remove the "too big to fail", but I see badly the countries being made harakiri and besides for the banks that did not work since G&S are still here!

Did67 wrote:For Daesch, who sticks to it?

For the moment, the only ones who have really stuck to it are "these bloody dictators of Russian"who have committed only one fault so far: defending a democratically elected government on their border! It was not a crime.
Well if they weren't there, we would go straight to a Europe VS Russia war (WWIII)

But damn, when are the European governments going to wake up and understand the trap set by America and its co-interested (but so discreet these times, although being directly concerned and never really attacked)?
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by Remundo » 14/11/15, 16:44

one cannot speak seriously of these attacks without speaking of geopolitics.

As Christophe says, there are epidermal reactions as soon as we talk about interest national.

The FN on the Syrian question, and more generally the positioning of foreign policy, has much less dangerous ideas than the delusional policy of the Atlanticist bloc, which should be remembered, is the foster mother of Daesh.

The FN to sum up says that we must stop serving soup in the USA and take care of our onions. It is undoubtedly not transcendent of genius, but it is very pragmatic.

This is, moreover, what the Germans do for the most part, as we can see, much less Islamic terrorism on their territory.

Our national interest of French, and more generally of Europeans, was not to destabilize Iraq, Libya, Syria etc ...

France in particular with its "ghettoized" Muslim communities in the suburbs is extremely fragile on this theme of the clash of civilizations (Islam VS Judeo-Christianity) by taking as much part in the attacks of "Muslim" political regimes, which certainly are not (n ' were) not angels, but had the great advantage of effectively muzzling high-profile neo-barbarians like Daesh.

Indeed, some young people from these disadvantaged areas are disoriented and idle: they seek an ideal, often religious, and become easy and hardworking recruits, boosted by their adrenaline, their youth, their unconsciousness, but also their thirst for giving a noble meaning to their life.

Russia is indeed intervening now, and has had its first "collateral damage". It is in Russia's interest to form a Russian-Syrian-Iranian coalition now to rebalance international relations with the US, (and France) which are seriously starting to get ridiculous on the Syrian issue ...
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by Did67 » 14/11/15, 16:49

Christophe wrote:
Are you referring to my point about the decline in French patriotism that I made? If yes thank you to develop in what is worse than the FN ??



1) For the moment, apart from my rant against a "political" analysis of the situation, I prefer, out of respect for the dead, not to "chatter", or speak in a vacuum ...

2) But I will still answer that.

The answer is no !!!

I meant this:

- even the FN has not, until then, made a shattering declaration, aimed at politically exploiting the situation - against the government, Hollande, the left, what do I know ... Like: "if we had been listened to, he there would be borders, it would not have happened ... "

- but, right here, a little higher, it's already gone ... It's Holland's fault, of the government, of our commitment on certain fronts ... [I remind young people who have short memories: if English, Americans, Australians had not landed in Normandy, who knows if we would still be under Nazi influence; they died in the hundreds of thousands; so we just can't reason like this: there are deaths as a possible consequence, so don't!]

- I therefore implied that, on this thread, higher, some forumeurs, on econology, do not even have the finesse of the FN!

It's just an opinion. Or rather a "feeling" ...

And I am silent after removing this misunderstanding.
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by Christophe » 14/11/15, 17:20

Ok Didier but why assimilate the words of one or the other participant in econology in the broad sense ???? We are on a forum audience...

econology does not even have the finesse of the FN!


It is an amalgam worthy of the FN this kind of reasoning ...

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by Obamot » 14/11/15, 17:29

First of all, should we know about the substance, the chances of the FN for him to be elected head of France ...? Wait for the choice of ballot boxes?

Remundo wrote:[...] Russia is indeed intervening now, and has had its first "collateral damage". It is in Russia's interest to form a Russian-Syrian-Iranian coalition now to rebalance international relations with the USA, (and France) who are seriously starting to get ridiculous on the Syrian dossier ...

This is proof that ridicule can kill : Cry:
For the rest "no better" ...
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by Did67 » 14/11/15, 17:35

And come on, this photo of this leaf, picked up today ...

It inspires me in the fall in France.

With this fringe of black ... death!

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by Obamot » 14/11/15, 17:40

I can not help quoting our chemist 2 days ago, when I showed him the kittens of a branch of walnut, tell me that:
"It was normal, that nature needed to start the pushing process and fall already and which will assert itself in spring" (as in almost all chemistry there is first a reaction, almost always ...).

Your sheet is therefore the sign that it has given way to the new growth of next year, it is a sign of hope ... All the youth is not rotten ...

May the rulers have the same wisdom as nature and be inspired by it!

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by Christophe » 14/11/15, 17:50

Did67 wrote:Yes. Big awkwardness - as often when the emotion seizes me!

It was indeed the expression of one or the other on econology ...


Ok thank you I prefer this ... a small edition of your message would be nice ...
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by Did67 » 14/11/15, 17:58

On this path of wisdom, as a lazy gardener, I want to philosophize:

a) this leaf is detached, following the decrease in the length of the days (it forms, at the base of the petiole, a tiny "abscission zone")

b) before that, part of the "useful" substances (soluble sugars, proteins, etc.) was transferred into the "living wood" (called "sapwood": the branches and the periphery of the trunks); this will be used, in fact, to restart the vegetation in spring, when the buds will bud ... Nature is thrifty and well organized ...

c) the leaf itself, if it had not reached my desk (for the photo), will serve as food for a whole swarm of living beings in / on the ground; who will prosper with this energy represented by biomass, with minerals; to be able to dismantle this biomass to do this, which will eventually release the mineral elements contained in the leaf ...

Exactly what plants will need to grow ...

Everything else is only water (H²O), CO² (there is no shortage) and ... solar energy!

And finally, everything in life is only cycles!
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by Did67 » 14/11/15, 18:04

Obamot wrote:I can not help quoting our chemist 2 days ago, when I showed him the kittens of a branch of walnut, tell me that:
"It was normal, that nature needed to start the pushing process and fall already and which will assert itself in spring" (as in almost all chemistry there is first a reaction, almost always ...) ..


In general, observation of a branch, even bare, shows that the buds are already in place. The arborist already knows how to identify which bud will make a branch and which will become flowers ...
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