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by Pascal HA PHAM » 11/04/06, 05:37

Hello,

It's true my thing needs a condensed info especially on patents:

In summary 4 patents are published including 2 PCT, and it is the last PCT published on 16/02/2006 which is the most complete .... see attached links.
3 other links are added: that of the site designed by David Salvan de Vichy, a devoted and courageous young Internet user who dedicated it to my machines + a reference to video demonstrations + that of the site of a nice biker from Monaco or we can see how some across the Atlantic (and unscrupulous) have appropriated the authorship of the thing ... following a French patent in the 1960s concerning the deformable diamond engine .....

If not yesterday I wrote to the famous "Canadian" of STARAPEX to ask him the dates and N ° of his possible patents on the engines which he exibes and which are only copy of mine .... no answer this morning. ....

You know, communicating on your Forum and to read some post like I just did it this morning gives me the fishing to continue ... especially not to give up the part ..... it's nice your Forum, I appreciate it very much.
by the way, thank you Paldéolien!

Summary of all the links concerning my machine with my patents (it is printable / importable)

Link of the site dedicated by David:

http://www.delta-sierra.com/machines_ecologiques/



Site link of a MONACO biker:

http://www.moto-histo.com/Aut/aut.htm



Link for video (sorry that refers to another Forum !):

http://www.oleocene.org/phpBB2/viewtopi ... 1200#41200



Links for the last 4 patent publications:

patent 1 http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPOD ... =FR2851011

Internal rotational combustion engine, a piston of annular tri-arc form within chamber having bi-arc form and external toothed hexa-arc gearwheel fit on one

end of annular piston

patent2 http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPOD ... 2004081357

ROTARY ENGINE INCLUDING A TRIPLE-ARCED TUBULAR PISTON

patent3 http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPOD ... =FR2872859

6-stroke tripod rotary piston engine

patent4 http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPOD ... 2006016019

with the possibility to see the entire text with the "save full document" function at the top



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by Pascal HA PHAM » 12/04/06, 06:07

Hello,

here is the answer of KENNETH McKENZIE (A Canadian it seems it), which I suspect to have recently copied on my concept of engine with annular piston tri lobique (answer copied pasted texting) ... to have recently published diagrams of a hydraulic bike and motor lines in its site (STARAPEX.COM) .... all certified true of my machines and, it seems, added after my publications:

I was fortunate to discover an international language of mechanics back in 1978. This resulted from the belief that if a three sided rotor can turn in a non circular housing then a five sided rotor must also turn in a non circular housing. The word starapex came from my drawing a five sided star and then connecting the points to make the rotor.

I spent about three months trying to find the exact geometry to turn the rotor in and had a wooden prototype housing that was closed to the finished product. I screwed a strip of wood onto the rotor to assist turning it.using two screws.

After turning it many times, for perhaps days, I then noted that one screw head stopped during the process. This gave me the beginning to discover the art contained in the ten curves that make the periphery of the starapex rotary engine housing.

Further research using all odd number polygon shapes opened a door to a new world of mechanics.

I published a booklet in 1979 with the art contained in the center fold of it and then did what was required to obtain the Canadian Copyright serial; number 296489. The Canadian copyright gives me as a producer of artistic and intellectual works and my assignes the exclusive right to reproduce, print, publish, sell or otherwise dispose of copies of my work. The duration of the Canadian Copyright is my lifetime over fifty years.

I have many millions of designs, why would I restrict my assigned rights confining them to patent law. My assignees can obtain their own patent on what they themselves bring to the table.

I am perplexed that you do not inquire about the gears required in your engine.

Cheers

Ken McKenzie....

Who could help me translate his answer?, I basically understood but I am afraid of making gaps in understanding ....
He would have patented a five-head engine? and would have claimed extrapolation on all possible head nb ....?

Otherwise the guy seems a priori open since he communicates and gives his patent number .... Canadian national N ° 296 489 .....
other help request: how to obtain the exact text of this patent (in French if possible) ....

Both the fact that he answers me reassures me, but the fact that he seems to continue claiming authorship of the concept terrorizes me ....
why then have my 4 patents not had hers in the prior art?

The key to this mystery may be in the content of 296 489 .... which certainly is "only Canadian" .....

For me, the issue is still extremely important.
You can imagine that I replied that the tri-lobular annular piston engine was my concept and not his ...! and that I would request technical explanations from INPI.

A case study ...

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Re: Tri-lobic annular piston motor




by string » 22/04/06, 09:29

Pascal HA PHAM wrote:

Hello Pascal
Could you respond to the message I posted on: Mon Apr 10, 2006 13:03:05 https://www.econologie.com/forums/machine-ro ... 55-20.html

I asked you:

Hello Pascal

Could you tell me the size, weight and price of an engine capable of running an 8000 watt generator.
A simple ladle estimate will be more than enough
cordially

Excuse me for insisting, I intend to leave to live in the Dominican Republic in the middle of the year 2007. Your engine seems to me ideal to assure me an energy independence while respecting the environment. The site I have chosen has a water intake, the diameter of the penstock is 40 mm and the height of fall is 50 meters.

Please answer, it goes without saying that if people are interested on the spot I will communicate their contact details to you.

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by Pascal HA PHAM » 24/04/06, 06:23

Hello,

apologies for the delay in responding ....
But I had to prepare my salon Porte de Versailles (from April 13 to 17), provide the 5 days of demo in public .... resume a day of work.
I was completely exhausted and to avoid falling, it was essential to go green for a few days of rest.

THEREFORE :
concerning the capacity of the machine to ensure approximately 8000 watts under 5 kg of water pressure? ....

the proto generation 3 machine must theoretically produce 1,63 hp (1200 watts at the output of the shaft) under 5 kg of delta P with a rotation speed of 100 rpm and an hourly water consumption of 8,68 m3.
It weighs around 6kg.

With a ladle to produce 8000 watts at the output of the shaft, it would therefore be necessary to have 7 identical machines coupled, that is to say approximately 42 kg of "machine weight"

These calculations are theoretical and in this case I do not hesitate to put a significant correction coefficient of calculation security .... that is to say that I "zap" the power of the internal stage which is worth about 1/3 more power.

it is therefore very likely that the above theoretical calculations are below reality ... but even if it means being surprised, it is better to be in the right direction.

The side that bothers me is the flow:
how to pass in a diameter 40 under 5 kg a minimum hourly flow of more than 60M3 (7 times 8,68 m3) ....
gasp ...!, I am not competent to answer .... to feeeling it does not seem possible to me.
as much as the internal stage, if it is used "food" 1/3 of more flow

Otherwise, my machines are barely out of "formwork" and I still cannot guarantee anything in terms of reliability / endurance.

Even if the hundreds of public demos over 2 years are convincing, everything is still very experimental and it would take a lot of work in development on the materials (anti friction, not sensitive to the aqueous medium) and on the parameters before getting into a situation of production...

See you soon.
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by Christophe » 02/05/06, 23:41

Pascal, I took over your calculations a bit (with a ladle).

There is something I do not understand with the waterfall.

1) a flow of 8,68 m3 / h under 5 bar gives a kinetic power (or potential it depends on how we see the thing) of 1200 W.

So do you think your engine would have an efficiency close to 100%? Or did you reason backwards?

2) Regarding the 40 diameter tube, we find a speed of 12 m / s so I think it's quite reasonable, right?
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by Pascal HA PHAM » 17/05/06, 07:51

hi christophe,
I apologize for the delay in responding, but I only saw your post this morning!
The calculation which I carried out is theoretical and not checked on a prototype ..... indeed if one seeks to deduce the output from it .... that seems grossly high.
At the moment I am applying to make a specific X th proto to measure - and not calculate - this famous yield .... for this I am in the process of re-manufacturing an annular piston in PEEK (plyether -ether- cetone ), a plastic material that some people may know? in summary it has a density of the order of 1,5 (instead of 2,7 for fortal aluminum) and above all can operate "dry" because it is self lubricating and would have a very very interesting coefficient of friction in medium. that must be the top ....
In aqueous mode, the engine does not turn quickly and the performance of the machine is only hampered by this coefficient of friction and any internal leaks, which have proven to be minimal in use.
so wait and see, but without showing an exaggerated optimism, we can clearly see through the demo / test carried out on the first prototypes cut with thunderbolts that the mechanical efficiency of the machine is already quite high despite an indescent rusticity with regard to this that the current technology applied to current engines distributed to the general public allows us to do.
So I remain very careful and it is not up to me to display the performance of my thing otherwise I will be accused of being judge and jury .... and then even, I can crash ...! So these are scientists who take over from new prototypes that I provide them.
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by neant » 17/05/06, 08:24

Hi Pascal, for composite materials, I recommend the ARNIT, I had the opportunity to machine it, it is used to replace gears, it is an excellent material which is machined very very well.
And very resistant.
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I haven't found the brand, Arnit is a brand.
On the other hand I found that it seems similar.

http://www.quadrantplastics.com/frans/S ... 0.asp?id=1
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There are even many other materials on this site, after it is a matter of price ...
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by Pascal HA PHAM » 17/05/06, 08:37

thanks for the tip ...
can you tell me where we can find it in the Paris region (the Peek I found it in Chartres) ...?
and which is the best for cutting the profile of the piston: with water?
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by neant » 17/05/06, 08:45

Mouarf, there the cutting with water, c precise to the 10th of mm, c not correct.
Machining, I know that to make precision.
C for that ke if the material is machined well at the start, in the end, you will have produced a precise and suitable part.
There are no secrets, good material + good machining = reliability
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by neant » 17/05/06, 08:58

Fé attention Pascal, I read that the PEEK does not slide well, you have to be careful to take the right PEEK.
http://www.quadrantplastics.com/frans/K ... k.asp?id=2

There is carbon in this one, it is suitable for friction under load.
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