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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by sen-no-sen » 12/12/19, 20:37

Christophe wrote:For the rest condensed wealth? Not understood...sorry...


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Ahmed wrote:Just ask! 8)
You replace "condensed" by "concentrated" or better by the formula "concentration of wealth" ...


I prefer condensation to concentration, but that remains fair.
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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by Ahmed » 12/12/19, 20:40

Yes, I understand the nuance, but it is for educational concern ... : Wink:
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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by GuyGadebois » 12/12/19, 20:41

If I understand correctly, the rich are more and more intelligent and the poor more and more stupid. Wow, this is a neo-liberal-consumerist manifesto!
Ps: I understand that you prefer "condensation", because it ends up trickling ... : roll:
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by sen-no-sen » 12/12/19, 20:59

GuyGadebois wrote:If I understand the rich are more and more intelligent and the poor more and more stupid. Wow, this is a consumer manifesto!
Ps: I understand that you prefer "condensation", because it ends up trickling ... : roll:


Syllogism, inference and so on!
I did not mention that the rich were systematically smarter than the poor but that wealth and intelligence were condensed, nuance.
That is to say that instead of having a balanced intelligence distribution, we find that it has a tendency to manifest itself around nuclei of condensation with regard to a multitude of factors which may be social class. , community * or ethnicity, geographic area etc ... As for social inequalities, there is nothing new under the sun except that the last decades have accustomed us to a better balanced.

* Case of Jewish and Asian families.
The tremendous academic success of Asian children
https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/10/19/01016-20101019ARTFIG00648-la-formidable-reussite-scolaire-des-enfants-d-asiatiques.php
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by GuyGadebois » 12/12/19, 21:30

sen-no-sen wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:If I understand the rich are more and more intelligent and the poor more and more stupid. Wow, this is a consumer manifesto!
Ps: I understand that you prefer "condensation", because it ends up trickling ... : roll:


Syllogism, inference and so on!
I did not mention that the rich were systematically smarter than the poor but that wealth and intelligence were condensed, nuance.
That is to say that instead of having a balanced intelligence distribution, we find that it has a tendency to manifest itself around nuclei of condensation with regard to a multitude of factors which may be social class. , community * or ethnicity, geographic area etc ... As with social inequality, there is nothing new under the sun except that the last decades have

It's even worse than my interpretation. So, it is better to be rich, Jewish and Asian (both, it would be crazy!) And not live in the asshole of your country but rather in Gangnam, in the Haidian district, the XVIth or Park Tzameret for be smarter than anything!
Syllogisms, inferences, memes, and all the bazaar, all the same stinks.
Moreover, IQ tests are ethnocentric, partial, biased and only reflect a "kind of arbitrary intelligence" privileged among the privileged on the planet. Shit in a bar that you just illustrated wonderfully.
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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by Christophe » 12/12/19, 21:55

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Christophe wrote:For the rest condensed wealth? Not understood...sorry...


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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by sen-no-sen » 12/12/19, 22:46

GuyGadebois wrote:It's even worse than my interpretation. So, it is better to be rich, Jewish and Asian (both, it would be crazy!) And not live in the asshole of your country but rather in Gangnam, in the Haidian district, the XVIth or Park Tzameret for be smarter than anything!
Syllogisms, inferences, memes, and all the bazaar, all the same stinks.
Moreover, IQ tests are ethnocentric, partial, biased and only reflect a "kind of arbitrary intelligence" privileged among the privileged on the planet. Shit in a bar that you just illustrated wonderfully.


Yes it is better to go to the best schools and have a stable situation to study, regardless of whether you are Jewish, Cambodian or Senegalese. And although human beings all have the same intelligence potential,they do not all benefit from the same cultural and social roots, no offense to benevolence.


The IQ tests are quite dubious indeed since at the beginning it was a question of measuring intelligence in a very global way to differentiate people with mental pathology (type cretinism etc ...) from the classic patients.
So measuring an IQ at 152 doesn't mean anything ... at best we can say that an IQ is above or below 100.
The European IQ test applied to ethnic groups such as the Indians gave very poor results for its latter, on the other hand tests of aptitudes specific to their culture raised the scores to levels which could make many academics blush. .

However, this kind of analysis should not be thrown in the trash because it reflects a certain fact of society. It appears that the cultural level (which seems to me more objective and global than the IQ) has actually been declining for some years, young people (not all and far from it!) read less and less well the consequence of a multitude of problems (social networks and reality TV are no stranger to this).
Intelligence is a potential * which requires fertile soil to develop, without the necessary conditions it is very clear that it can only atrophy.

* We can also establish a direct relationship between obesity and lack of physical activity coupled with poor nutrition (too fatty, saturated) and intellectual obesity consecutive of too much low quality information based on consultation rather than reflection and effort.
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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by Christophe » 23/12/20, 13:15

The average IQ of the world's population, which steadily increased from the post-war period to the late 90s, has been declining over the past twenty years ...

It is the reversal of the Flynn effect.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effet_Flynn

It seems that the level of intelligence measured by tests is declining in more developed countries.
Many can be the causes of this phenomenon.
One of them could be the impoverishment of language.

Several studies indeed show the decrease in lexical knowledge and the impoverishment of the language: it is not only a question of the reduction of the vocabulary used, but also of the linguistic subtleties which make it possible to develop and formulate a complex thought.

The progressive disappearance of tenses (subjunctive, imperfect, composite forms of the future, past participant) gives rise to a thought almost always in the present, currently limited: incapable of projections in time.

The simplification of the tutorials, the disappearance of capitals and punctuation are examples of ′ ′ mortal blows ′ ′ to the precision and the variety of the expression.
Just one example: delete the word ′ ′ young girl ′ ′ (now obsolete : Shock: : Shock: : Shock: ) does not only mean abandoning the aesthetics of a word, but also unintentionally promoting the idea that there are no intermediate phases between a child and a woman.
Fewer words and fewer conjugated verbs mean less ability to express emotions and fewer possibilities for developing a thought.
Studies have shown that violence in the public and private spheres arises directly from the inability to describe their emotions through words.
No words to build reasoning, complex thinking is made impossible.
The poorer the language, the more thought disappears.


The story is rich in examples and many books (Georges Orwell - ′ ′ 1984 "; Ray Bradbury - ′ ′ Fahrenheit 451 ′ ′) have told how all totalitarian regimes have always hampered thought, by reducing the number and number meaning of words.

If there are no thoughts, there are no critical thoughts.
And there is no speechless thought.
How can one construct a deductive hypothetical thought without conditionality?
How can we envision the future without conjugation with the future?
How can we capture a storm, a succession of elements in time, whether past or future, and their relative duration, without a language that distinguishes what could have been, what was, what is, what could be, and what will be after what could have happened, really happened?

Dear parents and teachers: let's talk, read and write our children, our students. Teach and practice the language in its most different forms. Even if it sounds complicated. Especially if it's complicated.

Because in this effort there is freedom.

Those who affirm the need to simplify the spelling, to purge the language of its ′ ′ flaws ", to abolish genres, tenses, nuances, everything that creates complexity, are the true architects of the impoverishment of the human mind.

There is no freedom without necessity.
There is no beauty without the thought of beauty

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A graduate of Sciences-Po Paris, holder of an MBA, professional coach, Christophe Clavé spent 25 years in a company, as HR Director and then General Manager. He was also in charge of the Strategy and Company Policies course at HEC Paris for 5 years.
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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by Macro » 24/12/20, 13:16

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Re: Intelligence: IQ drop of 4 points in 20 years!




by Christophe » 25/01/21, 11:52

They say that bullshit can be relaxed intelligence, but what is bullshit relaxation?



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