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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 20/11/23, 07:50

Hey, Ahmed, fell silent as if by chance, in the face of verifiable historical facts.
don't believe what I tell you: "check it!
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Ahmed » 20/11/23, 09:46

These checks do not seem sufficient since they systematically lead to a "conclusive doubt"... : Mrgreen:
Probably due to a lack of relevant “verification” criteria.
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 20/11/23, 10:16

Ahmed »20 / 11 / 23, 10: 46
These checks do not seem sufficient since they systematically lead to a "conclusive doubt"... : Mrgreen:
Probably due to a lack of relevant “verification” criteria.
This is always the argument used whatever the subject, including in your chosen field.
Except that "checking" over a few days, or even a few months, there can be this kind of doubt[*], but over many decades and whatever the point of view, the figures speak for themselves or else it we must review the arithmetic taught everywhere.

Indeed, the tinkering of Pasteur and Jenner, like those who followed, could have resulted in a miracle of science by thus showing its intellectual superiority over religious beliefs.But more than a century has passed on this great idea and the evidence of their claims to avoid epidemics has proven to be false, supported by the official statistics of the countries establishing these.

[*] christine cotton uses this image (which I have already mentioned myself) that we cannot decide the final results of a match from the first minutes, before it is over. However, it is the role of statistics to count the points once the match is over. and therefore verifiable by each team.

so a little reminder, for those who haven't followed:
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 20/11/23, 12:42

in the news: Japan refuses to import duck foie gras vaccinated. That must be scientific! : roll:
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 20/11/23, 13:23

Janic wrote:in the news: Japan refuses to import duck foie gras vaccinated. That must be scientific! : roll:

Avian flu: Japan suspends its imports of French foie gras (despite the vaccination of the ducks)
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-fi ... 78884.html
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 20/11/23, 15:52

despite or because? In both cases, Japan does not have confidence in this vaccination!
https://www.france24.com/fr/20090204-le ... -francais-

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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 20/11/23, 16:07

Avian flu: faced with the vaccination of ducks in France, importing countries adopt restrictions

Vaccination “can mask infection with the avian influenza virus […] and thus allow the export of infected live animals”, explains the American Department of Agriculture in particular.

After the start of vaccination of ducks against avian flu in France, the United States, Canada and Japan began to restrict their imports of French poultry, measures with limited economic consequences for the moment. “From the moment we vaccinate, these countries are entitled to consider that France is no longer a zone free of avian flu,” explains Yann Nédélec, director of the French poultry inter-professional association Anvol.

Highly pathogenic avian influenza affected the country of foie gras from 2015 to 2017 then almost continuously since the end of 2020. After an unprecedented crisis (32 million poultry slaughtered since the summer of 2021), the government decided to make the vaccination in farms of more than 250 ducks, excluding breeding ducks, from October 1 to try to stop its spread. However, this prevention campaign is of concern to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA).

Vaccination “may mask infection with the avian influenza virus […] and thus allow the export of infected live animals or products contaminated by the virus to the United States,” explained the ministry. The country has therefore banned imports from France of live poultry, hatching eggs - intended to produce future chicks or ducklings - as well as unprocessed poultry meat. Poultry products cooked or cooked so that the virus is destroyed can still be imported with proper documentation, the USDA said.

Bresse poultry and foie gras

Unable to guarantee that vaccinated ducks - and therefore potentially healthy carriers of the disease - do not circulate freely within European countries members of the common market, the United States has also restricted imports of live ducks and raw products from the bird. coming from this area. Canada, for its part, “temporarily” suspended the importation of live poultry, hatching eggs, and fresh, frozen or raw poultry products from France while continuing to authorize “heat-treated, cooked or processed” products. canned,” the Canadian food inspection agency said in a statement.

“We do not know whether meat from vaccinated ducks can be exported to other countries, nor how France will identify, trace and control vaccinated breeding animals,” it is justified. Japan, as expected, also imposed restrictions. The volumes involved on the scale of the sector “are not enormous”, indicates Yann Nédélec. According to French customs, in the “live poultry and eggs” category, exports to the United States, for example, represented only 1% of France’s total exports. But products with very high added value, such as poultry from Bresse to Japan, are affected, notes the Anvol representative.
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The restrictions are also problematic for the genetics sector, which includes hatching eggs and day-old poultry sent to other farms for the production of table eggs or broiler poultry, the official said, adding that emphasizing that France is recognized for its know-how in rustic strains or organic labels.

A virus surveillance system, in particular to reassure countries which fear that the virus is circulating quietly in farms, has been put in place, indicates Yann Nédélec. “When we receive all the necessary documents confirming that the vaccination, surveillance and movement control strategy will not increase the risk of avian flu […], we will be able to remove or reduce restrictions related to avian flu,” he said. underlined the American ministry.

For foie gras, a symbolic product of French gastronomy, the situation is especially problematic in Japan, indicated the director of the interprofessional committee of foie gras palmipedes (Cifog), Marie-Pierre Pé: flows to the United States are almost zero and the restrictions in Canada only concern the raw. But Tokyo's decision was expected and “we had taken precautions in advance to be able to serve the Japanese during the end-of-year holidays,” she said.
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 21/11/23, 08:13

avian flu, vaccine or not, these poor ducks will avoid the torture, the suffering of ingesting crappy food to ruin their liver, at least, and by continuity the livers of its consumers, but who cares about that ?. All the more funny since in humans an enlarged liver is considered a disease with its many induced effects. Weird all the same!

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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 21/11/23, 08:40

to return to vaccination

Christine Cotton explaining what the job of a bio statistician is and the circumstances that led her to become interested in the Covid case given the high number of victims. and for our friend Ahmed, given his signature[*], at 42'30"you must not believe, it must be checked"


[*]"Don't believe what I tell you."
Besides, does he mean that what he says is nothing but lies? Or does he encourage us to verify his statements? : roll:
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Re: Vaccinomania and science: incompatible




by Janic » 21/11/23, 18:41

another update from Ch Cotton
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