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View sicetaitsimple » 30/07/24, 17:27

Triple therapy,
Iced sitz bath, enema, bloodletting?
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View Janic » 30/07/24, 17:32

guy
We have a treatment 1000 times cheaper, non-chemical, which sends back into the hands of "Big Pharma",
Hey, it's like the supermarket advert: cheaper than...
which only requires two injections per year,
compared to
Zero is always too much!
but no, it's not okay, the spoiled person who has stuck to enemas, bloodletting, sitz baths, enemas and Ambroise Paré comes to bellow, moo, grunt that HIV does not exist...
Desperate stupidity...the big loser! I'm hallucinating.
Go back to school (even if it's hopeless) to do some text analysis. Nowhere is it said that this virus, among thousands of others, cannot exist, but that it is not the cause of AIDS... according to scientists who do not believe it. Can you tell the difference between chicken and duck?
Otherwise great! This is an excellent demonstration of the placebo effect: You see that it works, you just have to believe in it, as your friend Izmentrop would say for homeopathy.

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“AIDS” has been curable for a long time.
Yes, I forgot. The weirdos from the Perth group claim that it's the treatment that kills, but HIV wreaks infinitely more havoc in countries that do not have the means to provide treatment with this shamefully expensive triple therapy... will understand.
Source and evidence? Understanding it's not your habit, so nothing new
Still in the confusion between HIV and AIDS, one is a virus, the other a syndrome and yet the two are not linked any more than the spike vaccine was linked to covid pathology.
Eh yes ! The problem of the ignorant is precisely that they are...ignorant. Fortunately, the “crazy” people at BP are there to make as much money as possible on the backs of poor devils who have been trapped. But as long as it makes the money pump work, everything is fine!

and a little last one for the road:
On November 30, 2004, BBC Two broadcast a documentary called “Guinea Pig Kids”.
BBC Two reporter Jamie Doran interviewed numerous parents and relatives and managed to obtain some medical records which unequivocally prove the children's active participation in these trials. …
Founded in 1987 to collect poor children from drug-addicted mothers, it (the ICC) has become, in 1992, a center of experiments on orphans who are HIV-positive. It is indirectly sponsored by the National Institute of Health and by pharmaceutical companies ...
This nurse (Jacklyn Hoerger) worked for the ICC in the early 90s. In 1996, she engaged in the process of adopting two HIV-positive children...she administered the prescribed dosages "to the letter" for approximately one year and was led to note the deterioration in the state of health of the two girls. It was then that she decided to research anti-retroviral drugs and consult numerous specialists, and armed with this information, she committed the unforgivable crime of taking the drugs away from the children, which immediately improved their health and transformed their anguish into joy of living…The child welfare center took the children away from their adoptive mother and sent them back to a foster home….
Mona Newberg, a teacher in public schools in New York, with a master's degree in education ... succeeded in removing Sean from the ICC. He was three years old and had been taking AZT since the age of 5 months. For 2 years he was fed thanks to a tube connected to his stomach ... the child was always feverish, often comatose and could not stay up for more than 10 minutes. It was then that Mona decided to remove all the drugs. Within two months, Sean recovered, was able to play with other children, and regained his appetite. Mona had him followed by a naturopath. CCA officials forced him to see Dr. Howard at Beth Israel Hospital. The latter then ordered that the child be treated with a new "miracle drug" Nevirapine. Sean's health deteriorated rapidly ... to the point that he was hospitalized 6 months later. When Mona was finally able to take him home, she stopped taking any medication. Again the child's health improved…
While Mona had just recovered Sean, the doctors decided to put her daughter Dana under drugs, although she did not show any sign of illness ... Since her adoption, she did not take medication, was never sick ... two months Later, the child had a backache and headache, so much so that he had to be taken to the Beth Israel Emergency Department ... The ACS removed Dana from her mother's care and gave it to the ICC. . In November 2004, Dana, then aged 16 years old is still cloistered in the center. Since his childhood Sean is on anti-AIDS drugs. It has 13 years weighs 22 kg and measures just over one meter twenty. The film revealed that this center is not the only one that works in this way.
English newspapers have largely covered the news, but in France the media did not dwell on these horrors ... p.30
The article still quotes the work of Father Angelo d'Agostino
Thus Father Angelo d'Agostino, who founded in Kenya a hospice for orphans considered positive. Without medication, he did true resurrections in children only with a healthy diet and good hygiene.
It is the same for the extraordinary work carried out by the association "Partage-Tanzania" which found on the ground that sick children indiscriminately recover whether they are HIV positive or HIV negative, from the moment they are properly fed and treated. In cases of serious immunodeficiency, doctors treat opportunistic diseases and various infections and restore immunity with a balanced diet and vitamin supplements. The results are spectacular. Among the 4000 orphans in Partage-Tanzania, mortality is around a third of national infant mortality and a quarter of regional infant mortality. p.26
And further on p.33 / 34
Christina Maggiore discovered in 1992 that she was HIV positive and her doctor explained that she had to prepare to die. When she learned that the treatments could make her sick… she preferred natural therapies which proved to be very effective because, a few months later she was in great shape…
The review also quotes Liam Scheff of the Observer who took over this investigation where she says:
I approach one of the children in a wheelchair, a boy about 12 years old. His face has something odd, his eyes are too far apart and his skull has a strange shape, a little flattened. His torso and limbs are slightly twisted, they appear tiny and fragile. This is what happens to babies treated with AZT. ... a boy on crutches tries to dance to the rhythm of the music. His legs sway under him while his feet form incongruous angles with the ground ... p.33
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View GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/07/24, 18:37

Your fake has already been debunked...
GuyGadebois wrote:
Janic wrote:The article still quotes the work of Father Angelo d'Agostino
Thus Father Angelo d'Agostino, who founded a hospice for orphans in Kenya considered positive. [b] Without taking medication, he operated real resurrections in children only with a healthy diet and good hygiene.

FAKE:
"All the children are HIV positive when they arrive at the home, but since they carry their mother's antibodies during the first years of their life, it is sometimes a "false" seropositivity. Many never develop the disease and will later test negative.

The home keeps HIV positive children and provides them with nutritional, psychological and school support, as well as antiretroviral drugs (ARV) to extend their life expectancy. "

https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/fr/r ... tits-soins <<< People's testimony ABOUT THE CENTER and what they are doing: “We are currently caring for 2 HIV-positive children living in the slums and their families; around 000 are on ARVs,” explained Sister Joseph. We follow them in five health centers to make sure they are taking their medications correctly.”
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View Janic » 30/07/24, 20:16

and he calls it debunking! Still bad at text analysis.
considered positive
by local doctors who consider them positive, by the symptoms declared specific to AIDS. As doctors have declared those who tested positive for covid as suffering from covid based on specific symptoms
on children only
:obvious since taking care of children and not the elderly. but the real meaning (text context) concerns the entire sentence
Without medication, he brought about real resurrections in children, only with a healthy diet and good hygiene.

What Montagnier will also say

observed in the field that sick children heal indiscriminately whether they are HIV positive or HIV negative, as long as they are properly fed and cared for.

In cases of serious immunodeficiency, doctors treat opportunistic diseases and various infections and restore immunity through a balanced diet and vitamin supplements.

The results are spectacular.
As already said: if you have difficulty with the rules of grammar and semantics, get help from a teacher in this discipline.
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View GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/07/24, 20:55

Montagnier was not in Kenya (otherwise a source), and it is easy to see that those who eat correctly, with healthy products, in a balanced way, who have the means to pay for vitamin supplements, will have, have a system immune system more efficient than a poor person who is content to go through the trash or only eats "junk food" and drinks all day long from Margnat Village or 8.6... break down the open doors, everyone is good. Try again... well, no.
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View Obamot » 31/07/24, 07:06

Janic wrote:and he calls it debunking! Still bad at text analysis.
More than ten years “they” could have cross-checked what was posted by certain trustworthy people here (and elsewhere during Covid), and realized that the reasoning held is correlated and robust (other serious people had already posted such as Dedelco and even ABC2019, it's not just a few scattered posts from people of good will with knowledge and experience...). Yes, more than ten years, but no, “they” are still in [egocentric mode: ON] clashes and bickering or even interpersonal insults…
"They" hardly understand, even the punctuation…!

"They” have learned almost nothing. And for manipulators, liars, swindlers, or those with attention deficit, it is very well explained... When “they” distort reality and their words are impregnated by paralogism, there is no reference built to discern truth from falsehood…! They no longer know which “signature” to devote themselves to and fall back on the mainstream and the doxa… zététique is so much more reassuring… No, nothing learned…:
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not even that AIDS is not a virus, but a retro-virus, not even that we are not cured of AIDS but of the conditions it causes, not even that Montagnier, its discoverer, changed his mind towards the end of his life, and made the remarks that we have always made here… (except in a fairly old interview, but at the time he had not managed to obtain the same confidence as recently). Not even (and we haven't seen it anywhere among the “funny people”) has anyone pointed out the fact that if we eliminate its causes, AIDS disappears, as Montagnier himself noted!

So you have to dare to post this kind of bullshit full of inaccuracies again. The new “fire department” treatment may be very good, I don't know, but whatever anyone says, it only solved the problem temporarily, if it is not this condition that will resurface later, the deficits that caused it will manifest themselves in other pathologies...

No longer having any trace of HIV is not very difficult, this whole story shakes the handle from the first signs (and even in the title, we can still discern other nonsense).
Finally there are some who like shitty boats to create a buzz : Mrgreen:
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View GuyGadeboisTheBack » 31/07/24, 11:45

"Mr. Diploma" has just expelled some phlegm that must have been whispered into him by an eminent professor/dean/specialist with whom he was trimming the piece of fat on an equal footing... "another, another"!!! : roll:

Personally, this kind of news rejoices me, in the middle of all this mud.
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View Ahmed » 31/07/24, 12:09

You're wasting your time, poor thing Guy, with this bunch of jerks who only want to scream in a pack... : roll:
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31/07/24, 12:09
ahmed
You are wasting your time, my poor Guy, with this bunch of jerks who only want to howl in packs...
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What I see very clearly is this ability to denigrate others...

Latest from “the friend” Ahmed, known as “the benevolent”, known as “the good-natured”, known as “the charitable”, known as “the tolerant”, known as “the empathetic”: : Cheesy:
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View Obamot » 31/07/24, 15:23

Ah well, since the zoo-nausea GMQP is still opening its odorous orifice, I continue... :?

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Only 7 patients? Finding a statistical bias on 7 patients while the doctrine calls for thousands, I'm willing... but...

Oh yes "hopes", big announcement that will make your mouth water..."But it's better to be careful"

And the pignouf does not establish the first correlation that it would be worth establishing between two degenerative pathologies! Staggering!

well wow, because
"if the stem cells were not resistant to the virus“this is proof of research into genes, the Ivorian!

This article is rubbish... And the other one which still dares to quibble.
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