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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby Janic » 06/01/19, 14:22

When antivaxxes do not want to understand that their "legal" arguments against mandatory vaccines are inept, guess what happens?
already antivaxx it does not exist otherwise than in the imaginary and fantasies provaxx!
What the zigotos of vaxxeuse have not grasped is that the administrations are like a thousand leaves and that to address to one, generally has no effect. Hence the communications that are made at every level of authority, competence, or influence that MPs, Senators, newspapers, etc ... with the little impact and return that is inevitable, but the goal is not there. It is about having done what was necessary to keep informed all those who later will not be able to say that they did not know it and it's been decades that it lasts. So what happens is that administrative remedies, usually without effect, are replaced by civil or criminal trials and where the authorities must decide, not on generalist laws, but on real cases that are the real victims and it is these accumulated judgments that eventually make jurisprudence that will advance the situation with the authorities and especially with the general public.
So the prosecutor is in his role to refer to more concerned authorities. " I remind you that a law can not be challenged before the public prosecutor and that a decree, like any administrative act, can be challenged only before the administrative justice ". Scientifically incompetent justice that will point to other more competent authorities and end up being the ministry of health and its experts and the loop is complete, back to the starting point. Judge and party at the same time.
And it is valid for all situations that can range from the challenge of a contravention to the complaint for non assistance to person in danger. But the law is the law say the defenders of it and lawyers have the role to show that the laws are at the service and for the protection of the citizen and not in the service of successive governments.
All the scandals that have made the headlines, never come from "competent" authorities, but from civil society victims of these and that the authorities can no longer pretend to ignore.
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby Exnihiloest » 08/01/19, 19:56

izentrop wrote:No smarter than the antivax ... although if they pay well ... We can not pay enough fools ... the Darwinian selection applied to the wallet ... : Mrgreen:

Excellent! This is the way to deal with these uneducated and vindictive arrears.
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby Janic » 09/01/19, 07:35

Excellent! This is the way to deal with these uneducated and vindictive arrears.
and how is it necessary to treat fools who do not want to face reality and who prefer Facho behaviors to worthy successors of the mad scientists of Nazism? Where are the indisputable and scientific proofs of the effectiveness of vaccinations and even more of its non-dangerous nature?
As he was expected: nothing! : Evil:
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby sergiomol » 10/01/19, 10:10

phil53 wrote:I am against the vaccination to excess and yet I am neither catho fundamentalist, nor extreme right nor extreme ecologist and Pr Joyeux is not my guru far from it.
So this explanation blah, an intox or it is made by incompetents.


The vaccination business will never stop, I think.
https://www.lci.fr/sante/vaccins-effets-secondaires-aluminum-laboratoires-5-arguments-contre-passes-au-crible-2058323.html#econologie.com
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby Janic » 10/01/19, 11:26

[quote] The vaccination business will never stop, I think.
https://www.lci.fr/sante/
It is not enough for a business to exist, it still needs to be supported by consumers. The mad cow crisis has been a big blow in the cattle industry, at least for a while. Vaccination, like other cultural phenomena, is the only argument that can reassure (not protect, it is different) the masses of populations traumatized by epidemics of plague and cholera that have decimated populations. Which "normal" individual would refuse to be reassured especially when no other alternative is proposed? But even though the French are calves, as the great Charles used to say, they are not fools, and they open their eyes more and more to the reality that surrounds them, despite the Franco-French omerta, unlike Anglosaxons and the Nordic countries!
So while their client base is shrinking in Western countries, it offers a huge array of developing countries who are the potential consumers of tomorrow, even though they are becoming increasingly skeptical about the miracles of Western medicine.
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby izentrop » 11/01/19, 09:26

There is everything to claim, even conspiracy.
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Unread Messageby Janic » 11/01/19, 10:09

There is everything to claim, even conspiracy.

indeed, this manifestation of the GJ is not the place of this kind of protest. When to conspiracy, you still have problems with semantics.
CONSPIRATION, subst. fem.
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1. Secret agreement between several persons to overthrow the established power or its representatives. (see conspiring IB 1)
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/conspiration


a) All associations for freedom of vaccination are, legally declared, open to all, all political convictions, cultural and other confused, so without any secret
b) There has never been a question, since the founding of associations, of overthrowing any power, but only and only the freedom of conscience enshrined in our lawslike some of our neighboring countries.
So useless to try to make believe what is not, unlike your usual sects great manipulators of fake news ... like you and there it is a beautiful! : Evil:
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

Unread Messageby izentrop » 15/01/19, 22:22

Cervical cancer vaccine: gynecologists at war against fake news http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/sante/ ... 984758.php
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