Covid and Didier Raoult (supporter of hydroxychloroquine): analyzes on the pandemic

[Christophe]

So a little computer engineer lecturing a world famous virologist? Is that the scientific method that you defend?

the scientific method looks at the quality of the arguments exchanged and not the social status of individuals

You still have to be in your field of expertise to judge the quality of the arguments ... this Kirvine is an arrogant, a self-proclaimed loudmouth, in the pay of the lobbies ...

I bet he has worked extensively on the disinformation of renewable energies in France ...

He's a pseudo-scientific little pug

While waiting for those he attacks save lives ... concept which is certainly not in his mentality ...

[izentrop]

Neem also seems to have antiviral properties against covid-19.
https://figshare.com/articles/_Neem_lea ... t/12613805

Maybe ... But 6 rather young patients ......

Preprinted, therefore worthless ... And then treat yourself with an endocrine disrupting insecticide, you have to dare https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azadirachtine#Toxicité

[GuyGadebois]

You still have to be in your field of expertise to judge the quality of the arguments ... this Kirvine is an arrogant, a self-proclaimed loudmouth, in the pay of the lobbies ...

I bet he has worked extensively on the disinformation of renewable energies in France ...

He's a pseudo-scientific little pug

While waiting for those he attacks save lives ... concept which is certainly not in his mentality ...

Absolutely, a staunch zetetician, misguided (pleonasm), zealous Servant Servile, in the service of the lobbies.

[GuyGadebois]

Neem also seems to have antiviral properties against covid-19.
https://figshare.com/articles/_Neem_lea ... t/12613805

Maybe ... But 6 rather young patients ......

Preprinted, therefore worthless ... And then treat yourself with an endocrine disrupting insecticide, you have to dare https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azadirachtine#Toxicité

I knew you would throw yourself headlong into the trap ... The study talks about the use of the leaves, not the oil (which is indeed toxic internally). This plant has been used for over 5000 years in India (among others) and there are dozens of different recipes for different conditions.
I know you don't care but still:
https://www.france-libertes.org/wp-cont ... e_neem.pdf

[Paul72]

As it has necessarily been read by those who post it, does this study give the average age of people who received the treatment (141 if I read correctly) but especially the average age of those who did not have it? not received (377 if I read correctly)?

"median age 58 years, IQR 40-67; 73% male" for the tri therapy group

Similar for the other group (it is marked)

[sicetaitsimple]

As it has necessarily been read by those who post it, does this study give the average age of people who received the treatment (141 if I read correctly) but especially the average age of those who did not have it? not received (377 if I read correctly)?

"median age 58 years, IQR 40-67; 73% male" for the tri therapy group

Similar for the other group (it is marked)

If you say so ... But why don't you copy the corresponding sentence rather than writing "Similar for the other group (it is marked)"?

[VetusLignum]

As it has necessarily been read by those who post it, does this study give the average age of people who received the treatment (141 if I read correctly) but especially the average age of those who did not have it? not received (377 if I read correctly)?

In fact, there are 2 differences between the Zelenko protocol and the Raoult protocol. The first is that Zelenko included zinc from the start (and zinc increases the antiviral effects of hydroxychloroquine). And the second is that Zelenko only treats patients at risk (and his criteria are relevant, since no patient died among his untreated patients). Thus, the median age of patients treated is 58 years. The 377 patients in the control group are the patients from the community who did not go to see Zelenko; we have no statistics on this group; one can imagine that they are representative of an average population of symptomatic positives.
I don't think the asymptomatics have been tested in this community, so the proportion of deaths in the population of symptomatic positives is 0.30% for Zelenko, which is better than Raoult (0.55%), than Iceland (1%) ), and much better than the control population of Zelenko (3.5%), and Ireland (6.7%)

[sicetaitsimple]

I am confused.....
Age is "similar for the other group, it is marked " or c "is" "on has no statistics on this group; one can imagine that they are representative of an average population of symptomatic positives..

That said, it's true that we can imagine what we want, after all ... especially in a scientific study that wants to compare two groups.

[yves35]

Good evening,

I take advantage of a distraction from the thought police (heavily bribed by the sweet butter mafia) to slip you some vital information.

The low contamination rate in Brittany is linked to the use of normal butter (salted therefore). If in France there have been so many cases (and especially of unfavorable evolution), it is because we consume sweet butter there. There has been a conspiracy to silence this fact. Salted butter is available over the counter and at low cost. But no ... as it was not possible for them to monopolize the added value of this popular remedy, the elites did everything to hide it from you and fuck you in the skull this product derived from an overseas plant with an unpronounceable name

Help me shed light on this scandal, spread the truth, go and convert ...
The more we are, the more we will be right

yves

[VetusLignum]

I am confused.....
Age is "similar for the other group, it is marked " or c "is" "on has no statistics on this group; one can imagine that they are representative of an average population of symptomatic positives..

That said, it's true that we can imagine what we want, after all ... especially in a scientific study that wants to compare two groups.

You have a group that is very well described, this is the group of 335 Zelenko patients, of which 141 (most at risk) have been treated. The 377 who are not Zelenko's patients, little is known about them, and this is one of the limitations of the study. But it is not the control group that interests us here.