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View izentrop » 16/07/20, 15:19

Christophe wrote:So a little computer engineer lecturing a world famous virologist? Is that the scientific method that you defend?
Well yes it is possible if the virologist proclaims assertions not scientifically validated. It is not a question of person, the expression "the habit does not make the monk" is still relevant.

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View GuyGadebois » 16/07/20, 15:21

Newly published outpatient study finds early use of zinc, hydroxychloroquine, and azithromycin associated with fewer hospitalizations and deaths

Posted: Jul 15, 2020

NEW YORK, July 15, 2020 / PRNewswire / - Dr Vladimir Zelenko, a New York-based primary care physician, announced that a retrospective analysis based on his patient data is available online at http://www.thezelenkoprotocol.com . The study, which was subjected to a peer review, found that early intervention and treatment of stratified-risk COVID-19 patients on an outpatient basis resulted in five times fewer hospitalizations and deaths. The drugs used in the therapeutic approach were zinc, low dose hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.

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View Obamot » 16/07/20, 15:27

izentrop wrote:
Christophe wrote:So a little computer engineer lecturing a world famous virologist? Is that the scientific method that you defend?
Well yes it is possible if the virologist proclaims assertions not scientifically validated. It is not a question of person, the expression "the habit does not make the monk" is still relevant.

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Your nuclear “science” has never been “automatically” validated!

But strangely beyond a certain threshold, it automatically creates BAOUM and presto, 1 million deaths ...!
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View izentrop » 16/07/20, 15:28

Don't you have something more serious guitou? https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/202 ... ne_1784084
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View GuyGadebois » 16/07/20, 15:33

izentrop wrote:Don't you have something more serious guitou?

It is published on 15/07 and validated by peers. So you know what you have to do? : Mrgreen:

Ps: The rantings of a pseudo scientific journalist, you know how much I am tormented ...
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View VetusLignum » 16/07/20, 19:02

Neem also seems to have antiviral properties against covid-19.
https://figshare.com/articles/_Neem_lea ... t/12613805
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View GuyGadebois » 16/07/20, 19:20

VetusLignum wrote:Neem also seems to have antiviral properties against covid-19.
https://figshare.com/articles/_Neem_lea ... t/12613805

Unhappy !!! Izy will fall for you ... : Cheesy:
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VetusLignum wrote:Neem also seems to have antiviral properties against covid-19.
https://figshare.com/articles/_Neem_lea ... t/12613805


Maybe ... But 6 rather young patients .....

The age group of patients in this study varies from 5 to 70 years with 2 children being aged 5 and 13 years, 3 adults were in the 36-40 age group and 1 adult was in the 60-70 age group. All the 6 of them had tested positive.
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View Obamot » 16/07/20, 20:55

Heinrich-Heine-University,

Study on ambulatory patients infected with COVID-19
Early treatment with reduced risk with zinc plus low dose hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin: retrospective study of a case series

Summary

Objective: To describe the outcome of patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) on an outpatient basis after early treatment with zinc, low-dose hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (triple therapy) based on risk stratification .

Purpose: Retrospective study of case series.

Setting: General medicine.

Participants: 141 COVID-19 patients with laboratory-confirmed Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections in 2020.

Main outcome parameters: Risk-based treatment decision, rate of hospitalization and death from all causes.

Results: Of the 335 COVID-19 patients who tested positive by PCR, 127 were treated with triple therapy. 104 of 127 patients met the defined risk classification criteria and were included in the analysis.
In addition, 37 treated and eligible patients who were confirmed by IgG tests were included in the treatment group (total N = 141). 208 of 335 patients did not meet the criteria for risk classification and were not treated.

After 4 days (median, IQR 3-6, available for N = 66/141) of symptom onset, 141 patients (median age 58 years, IQR 40-67; 73% male) received a prescription for triple therapy for 5 days.

Independent public benchmark data from 377 confirmed COVID-19 patients from the same community was used as a control and not treated.
- 4 of the 141 patients treated (2,8%) were hospitalized, which is significantly less (p <0,001)
compared to
- 58 of 377 untreated patients (15,4%) (odds ratio 0,16, 95% CI 0,06-0,5).

Therefore, the chances of hospitalization for treated patients were 84% lower than in the untreated group.

One patient (0,7%) died in the treated group
VS.
13 patients (3,5%) in the untreated group (odds ratio 0,2, 95% CI 0,03-1,5; p = 0,16).

No cardiac side effects were observed.

Conclusions: Treatment based on the risk classification of COVID-19 outpatients as soon as possible after the onset of symptoms with the triple therapy used, including the combination of zinc and low-dose hydroxychloroquine, has been associated with a significantly lower number of hospitalizations and 5 times fewer deaths from all causes.

Translation of the link given by Guy: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1

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View sicetaitsimple » 16/07/20, 21:30

As it has necessarily been read by those who post it, does this study give the average age of people who received the treatment (141 if I read correctly) but especially the average age of those who did not have it? not received (377 if I read correctly)?
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