Covid-19 and the Spanish flu: have we learned the lessons of 1920?

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Covid-19 and the Spanish flu: have we learned the lessons of 1920?




by Christophe » 03/12/20, 12:55

Why is there no more analysis of the 1920 Spanish influenza pandemic to try to predict the possible end of the Covid19 pandemic?

We didn't have a vaccine at the time it seems to me? How did it resolve? A mutation ? Drastic confinement?

If we understand how it ended ... that will give us some clues for the current pandemic, right?

Suddenly, I am quite amazed that no "specialist" or "virologist" or other person who has the public speaking does not currently make this historical analysis much simpler and less risky than Nieme media rantings more or less fanciful and therefore dangerous on a virus that we do not understand!

To your analyzes, Ladies and Gentlemen ... : Cheesy:
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by ABC2019 » 03/12/20, 12:59

Christophe wrote:Why is there no more analysis of the 1920 Spanish influenza pandemic to try to predict the possible end of the Covid19 pandemic?

We didn't have a vaccine at the time it seems to me? How did it resolve? A mutation ? Drastic confinement?

well I would say, it ended after most of the particularly sensitive people died of it, right?
it is indeed the simplest and most traditional way to end epidemics: to wait until the people who are to die from them are indeed dead. Well, sometimes like the Black Death, it was still a lot of people. For the covid it would not do as much of course (between 100 and 200 maybe?)
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by Christophe » 03/12/20, 13:02

Ah good answer ... who would explain why we can not talk about the covid? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by thibr » 03/12/20, 19:22

the population was a little younger 100 years ago
a bit like in developing countries now, which can clearly create bias if this is not taken into account in the comparisons : Wink:
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by Janic » 03/12/20, 20:39

the influenza known as (falsely) Spanish, lasted only 2 years 1919/1920 by making between 20 to 40 million deaths in Europe; we are far from it even on a global level with the covid. So how could the flu kill so many people in such a short time? At all times it is the legacy of wars which destroyed the precarious hygienic conditions of the moment, The reestablishment of these (in two years is already fast), makes regain a better sanitary state of the countries and therefore death and disappearance of the disease in question.
the same case has occurred for polio due to poor drainage of black water (from toilets) stool carrying this virus and transmitted by contact or absorption) mixing with drinking water. The sanitation of water and its separation has put an end to this disease in our over-hygienized countries, not by the vaccine whatever people say about it and what is seen in poor countries when their hygiene improves.
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by sicetaitsimple » 03/12/20, 21:07

Janic wrote:At all times it is the legacy of wars which destroyed the precarious hygienic conditions of the moment, The reestablishment of these (in two years is already fast), makes regain a better sanitary state of the countries and therefore death and disappearance of the disease in question.

Anything ... The so-called Spanish flu killed many more people in countries that were not at war (India, China) or far from the conflict theater even by participating in it (USA) than in countries of Europe.
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by ABC2019 » 03/12/20, 22:47

Janic wrote:The sanitation of water and its separation has put an end to this disease in our over-hygienized countries, not by the vaccine whatever people say about it and what is seen in poor countries when their hygiene improves.

and if janic says it, it's true, he never talks bullshit. Amen.
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by Christophe » 04/12/20, 00:36

ABC2019 wrote:and if janic says it, it's true, he never talks bullshit. Amen.


Interest of this answer?

To discredit you?
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by ABC2019 » 04/12/20, 08:19

Christophe wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:and if janic says it, it's true, he never talks bullshit. Amen.


Interest of this answer?

To discredit you?


oh well, does it discredit to say that Janic never says bullshit? Do you prefer that I answer him in his own way? : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 04/12/20, 08:48

It is a personal attack which does not bring any argument to the debate ... whether it is founded or not (that's not the problem)!

When we attack people on the form, it's usually because there is a lack of substantive argument ...
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