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Covid and state lie in France

Unread Messageby GuyGadebois » 27/03/20, 13:47

Thank you to deltalpha for referring me to the site of Jean-Dominique Michel, health anthropologist, public health expert.

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The position of the French government on the treatment advocated by the IHU Méditerranée-Infection against Covid is taking on the features of a huge health scandal. The procrastination of the authorities is indeed accompanied by a meticulous work of disinformation and propaganda which leaves you speechless. A quick overview of the question for those who still have doubts. Or would know nothing about these subjects.

On the head
Since the beginning of the epidemic, the French government has been doing everything in its power to defeat the insistent recommendations of Méditerranée-Infection. Instead, it even adopts directives that are as absurd as it is untenable. He renounces mass screening for example, while the WHO has urgently urged to go in this direction for weeks. As a result, hundreds of thousands (even millions) of people with the virus have no way of knowing at this stage whether they are infected or not!
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Proponents of the prevailing absurd approach highlight the uncertainty that still reigns over the effect of these substances, and the insufficient number of data available at this stage, from clinical trials, to draw definitive conclusions. . Which is technically correct, but medically false and humanly monstrous.

Waiting for hundreds of additional deaths, while leaving the unfortunate healthcare teams, deprived of everything (including means of their own protection), to struggle at the front by taking insane risks, this is what the French government and the curious areopagus of experts who advise it dare to advocate in the name of scientific purity. Directives have even come to dissuade city doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine to their Covid + patients.
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Banana Republic - Minister of Propaganda
Government propaganda has mobilized two major fetishes to justify the indefensible: the "scientific validity" on the one hand and the so-called "toxicity" of hydroxychloroquine on the other.

On this last question, often raised, let us recall that the researchers of Marseilles are the best current knowledge in the world of the use of this molecule against viruses and bacteria! They point out that it is an extremely well tolerated drug, whose risk profile is perfectly known, and which under the prescription and the supervision of a doctor, poses no particular risk.
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Doctors warning on TV platforms against the risks associated with the prescription of hydroxychloroquine have at least two things in common:
a) none has even 1 / 10th of the experience that Marseillais have with this molecule - which includes the members of all the "scientific" councils in the boot of the president.
b) none have ever had the level corresponding to the best clubs in Europe. They are at best honest damn Metz, Nice or Lorient. At worst, obscure 3rd division workers will come and explain to everyone why Real Madrid has never understood anything in football…
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Science and lanterns
I developed this question in detail in my previous article (1) and I therefore refer the reader to it who would ignore these realities. Most people do not know it is true that we live in a world where the health system is in a state of systemic corruption. Research is massively manipulated by pharmas, which also infiltrate governments, parliaments and regulatory bodies such as the drug monitoring agency. Conflicts of interest, trafficking in influence and criminal logic are the hallmarks.

Sorry, I am getting right to the point: a government and health authorities who are themselves actively involved in this system of corruption, who condone big data manipulation and science in industry boots, and who turn a blind eye on appalling iatrogenic lethality - confidently ask to be trusted ...
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The kiss of death
After having disqualified all the "evidence" provided by the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Marseilles about the effectiveness of chloroquine, the government now requires other data before making a decision. It refers to "Science" and requires indisputable evidence. How reasonable!

In fact, it's a real kiss of death. First, to the hundreds of French women who will die from it because they have not been treated. But also because it gives them the hope of reserving a first class burial with hydroxychloroquine thanks to a chilling manipulation.
Hello sir,
A prominent professor of microbiology from the Rhône-Alpes region sent me the following message in response to my article on bad science. Read, you will understand:
I am a microbiologist afflicted by the level of bad faith of my methodological colleagues. Your article that a friend of mine sent me put me in a good mood this morning. Really thank you for this analysis of a rare delicacy and intelligence which contrasts with the low level of what we can hear on television sets or in the press in general.
Really there is nothing to add, we all make the same observation here on our colleagues who are doing wonderful randomized studies to show that the new antibiotic B at the cost of daily treatment at 300 euros is equivalent to antibiotic A at cost of daily treatment at 10 euros (non-inferiority studies, they do not even try to demonstrate that it is better.)
A simple note: we have all found that for patients who present with severe form and who end up in intensive care there is little more to do than resuscitation. The disease progresses on its own, the virus is often no longer detectable. And so we already suspect the result of the evaluation of the treatment Hydroxychloroquine - Azythromycin in these forms which will probably be the only evaluation that will be made in the official trial: little or no benefit.
What Mediterranean-Infection says is different: detect early to treat early in order to avoid this evolution towards severe forms. Oops, I forgot that we did not have the means in France of mass screening .... hence the position perhaps not so innocent of our government
And then the cost. Complete Remdesivir treatment 900-1000 dollars (it's on the Gilead site) versus Hydroxychloroquine-Azythromycin 15 euros ... We come back to our antibiotic A test versus antibiotic B from the beginning.
In any case thank you for your blog post
cordially

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See how beautiful it is: instead of taking advantage of the European champion it has on its territory, the French government challenges despite common sense and all scientific relevance the happy discoveries of the IHU Mediterranean-Infection. It defeats the use of an extremely safe treatment that could save hundreds or even thousands of lives. It massively disseminates misleading and anxiety-provoking information about the treatment. He brings up spokespersons (doctors and researchers) who play in comparison in the equivalent of campaign leagues and peddle the same runny talk over and over.

Then he sets up and endorses a scoundrel research project which, if applied as it is, will show the ineffectiveness of hydroxychloroquine by ensuring that the drug was prescribed only to people for whom it was already too late. .
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Towards an insurrection of conscience?
Fortunately, a wind of anger rises. It is indeed to say that the unfair decisions of the French government are not unanimous. By depriving the infected French of the possibility of treatment (and thus by insuring thereby further losses), by enjoining city doctors to give up prescribing the only useful treatment available against Covid, the Ministry of Health is also trying to crush under his boot the inalienable freedom of prescription of any doctor - sorry a little!
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In a forum published on Mediapart, Claude Escarguel, microbiologist, former president of the SNPHG, Anne Hessel, doctor of medicine and chemistry, and Pierre Larrouturou, European deputy, general rapporteur for the 2021 budget of the European Union, challenge the government by recalling that “All the great defeats can be summed up in two words: too late! Do not wait until it is too late to act! they add.

The fight will be ruthless.

Disqualify Marseille and hydroxychloroquine at all costs has become a kind of vital emergency for the authorities. As well as a singular scorched earth policy. Any confirmation of the early efficacy of the drug would indeed highlight in all its implacable rawness the direct responsibility of the ministry in the health fiasco and the enumerated deaths.
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Paralyze industrial power
The extreme passivity of the French government to quickly launch the necessary actions will probably not have escaped you. Even though Sanofi said it was ready to make millions of doses of hydroxychloroquine available quickly, the government suspended everything until the publication of the new "studies". Even though the production of screening tests was a simple organizational matter, the government has never taken any serious steps in this direction. Today, here is what we found published in Ouest-France:
Coronavirus. Geneticist Offers to Make Tests, Administration Refuses

In the absence of authorization, a researcher at the head of a public research laboratory in Lille was refused to produce screening tests for Covid-19, while the country is in short supply.
He is not the first to rise up against red tape despite the health emergency linked to the coronavirus. Philippe Froguel tells his bitter experience to France Inter.
This geneticist is at the head of a public research laboratory at the Lille CHRU, which regularly performs PCR tests, used in particular for influenza but also for detecting Covid-19. On March 10, faced with the scale of the epidemic in France, he proposed to manufacture these tests provided that the necessary ingredients were available.
Administration response: Procedures must be followed, only a medical biologist being officially authorized to read the results, whereas Philippe Froguel's laboratory has done so for years. He still hopes that his request will succeed.


(1) http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/202 ... 05255.html
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Science and science and even: not science!
What the public ignores, he who naively trusts "scientists", is that medical research has been in a systemic crisis for more than 15 years. At the time, John Ioannidis, a doctor born in New York, then passed by the Universities of Athens and Ioannina (Greece) then Harvard, had launched a sacred pavement in the pond in the form of an article entitled "Why Most Published Research Findings Are False ”(2). This paper had a never-ending success, becoming even the most downloaded technical article online from the journal PLoS (Public Library of Sciences) Medicine Ioannidis has since joined the prestigious Stanford University in Silicon Valley, where he serves as director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center while co-directing the Meta-Research Innovation Center.
To go back to the beginning of his original article, he was actually saying this: "there is growing concern that most of the research results currently published are false. The likelihood that a research claim is true may depend on the strength and bias of the study, the number of other studies on the same question, and most importantly, the relationship between true and false relationships among relationships studied in each scientific field. "
Ioannidis's article had the effect of a (small) electric shock. Which was nothing compared to the aftershocks to come ...

(2) http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... ed.0020124
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Re: Covid and state lie in France

Unread Messageby Christophe » 27/03/20, 14:34

Yes, okay ...

This subject which risks, will enter the controversy, settling of scores, whore, analyzes and judgment too easy afterwards ...

In short, is it really useful in getting out and understanding this crisis? The whole world is in shit, so we cannot particularly accuse French politicians even if they could have done better ...

I think this video sums it up well, without resorting to the controversy of forum, what happened:



Thank you Remundo for posting it ...

But let's not forget that politicians do not have all the cards, voluntarily or not, in their hands and that they are not the ones who really govern ...

Cow, I'm going to take a Pedro's "Class" there again!
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Unread Messageby sicetaitsimple » 27/03/20, 15:09

Christophe wrote:This subject which risks, will enter the controversy, settling of scores, whore, analysis and judgment too easy afterwards ... [/ b]


A little bit of slack in the early afternoon ????

No, no, we will have to hang them with their guts! All!
There are only those without any responsibility who will remain behind their PC by jerking off nothing all day that cannot be accused.
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Re: Covid and state lie in France

Unread Messageby Christophe » 27/03/20, 15:22

... Well then, but how did you guess? Indeed, I just jerk off * 3 times in a row so it is rather soft there! : Mrgreen:

Good without messing around ... So those who jerk off behind their PC as you say maybe save lives by broadcasting news of the days before the officials ...

Who was talking about Chloroquine and Raoult from March 17 on TV or in the mass media ??? Not many people ** ... But there were the little hands, the wankers of the net, like us, not paid to do it who spoke about it: health-pollution-prevention / germany-is it already using plaquenil-chloroquine-against-covid-19-t16352.html

Today the subject of Chloroquine is widely passed in the "general public" but not yet the very likely aerial contamination of COVID19.

So who is officially talking about it? Nobody ... will have to wait for the distribution of the missing masks for them to talk about it ???

Well I go back to masturbate, I don't have my 5 handjob quotas for the afternoon!

* hey without subscription Pornhub premium sivouplé !! : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

** obviously after hard research you are going to lay some counter examples ...
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Unread Messageby sicetaitsimple » 27/03/20, 15:27

You are definitely reading too fast and too badly.
I wrote well "by not wanking anything".
Good continuation. : Mrgreen:
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Re: Covid and state lie in France

Unread Messageby Christophe » 27/03/20, 15:28

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You're doing it on purpose? It is precisely because we do not masturbate anything that we have time to masturbate!

It is also a paradox of the French language! : Cheesy:

When I masturbate, I don't masturbate anything *!
When I wank nothing, I can wank!

: Mrgreen:

* I would rather say HEAVY about me ... Well yes it is not you who said it a few hours ago?
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Unread Messageby ABC2019 » 27/03/20, 15:35

GuyGadebois wrote:Thank you to deltalpha for referring me to the site of Jean-Dominique Michel, health anthropologist, public health expert.

vouais, "health anthropologist", specialist in shamanism and "spiritualist" healers

https://www.amazon.fr/Jean-Dominique-Mi ... B005GLDGC2


not the type I would take as the most credible on medical matters ...
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Unread Messageby izentrop » 27/03/20, 15:38

the decree also provides for the limitation of the dispensing of Plaquenil in pharmacies to its strict medical indications (rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and in prevention of sun allergies) and the prohibition of the export of specialties containing hydroxychloroquine, but also drugs containing the combination lopinavir / ritonavir, antivirals also tested against Covid-19. It is a question of "protecting" the patients who need it and "avoiding the risks of interruption" of their treatment because of prescriptions "without any justification", explained to AFP Dominique Martin, the director general ANSM. https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 87409.html
Wise precaution.
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Unread Messageby Christophe » 27/03/20, 15:40

sicetaitsimple wrote:There are only those without any responsibility who will remain behind their PC by jerking off nothing all day that cannot be accused.


Since you are playing idiot, I could take you out 2 (not so old) letter of lawyer A / R that I had received for defamation forcing me to delete threads of discussion of forums under penalty of a trial involving my criminal and civil responsibility as moderator... There is a prescription I can swing now!

The threatening emails of Guy Negre in person from MDI on the air car (some expressed serious doubts at the time about the forums ... doubts confirmed later: we know that everyone is driving in the air now and that MDI is listed on the stock exchange !!) I lost them by cons ... too old ... then Negre is dead anyway ...
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Unread Messageby pedrodelavega » 27/03/20, 15:57

Christophe wrote:Who was talking about Chloroquine and Raoult from March 17 on TV or in the mass media ???
Just about all the media and they talked about it before:
https://www.google.com/search?q=raoult& ... 20&tbm=nws
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