Covid-19: like HIV, the coronavirus leads to the suicide of immune cells

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Re: Covid-19: like HIV, the coronavirus leads to the suicide of immune cells




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 06/02/22, 03:11

It is noted that the deficiency in Se and in Zn is associated with an exceptionally high risk of mortality and with a serious evolution of the disease and the other mental defective dares to answer you that one does not know the cause for a reason or for a other !!!! But we don't care about the cause since we can easily remedy the effect!!!! : Shock: : Evil:
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by Christophe » 06/02/22, 03:26

Poh poh can't read, it's normal at his age!
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by Janic » 06/02/22, 08:27

But we don't care about the cause since we can easily remedy the effect!!!! : Shock: : Evil:
and yet it is the reverse that matters. It's like considering that pumping the water that enters the house in the event of a flood is more important than having planned protection systems against these floods.
It reminds me of Asterix among the Swiss where the Swiss hit the Romans and immediately after treat them and bandage them to easily remedy the effects.
when the bathtub overflows, you have to first turn off the tap BEFORE mopping.
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by Obamot » 06/02/22, 17:49

Christophe wrote:Well that's enough...9 days, 9 weeks or 9 months?

Make your choice, but NOW!
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by Obamot » 06/02/22, 18:37

izentrop wrote:
Obamot wrote:There are almost no serious cases with sufficient and balanced food intake (Vit D, magnesium, selenium, zinc, etc.)
Is it the dietary intake that creates the deficiency and not the disease? :?:
First you have to get out of the general framework of a single study, it's not limited to that as far as I'm concerned.

I didn't answer you, because once again you are asking a question, which is not sincere since you (already) give the answers behind, in the form of a provocation. I'll get back to you in 9 months : Mrgreen: when you are factual. There I will answer you, but just by flying over the problem.

It is rather: THE INSUFFICIENT intake that first creates the deficit, then the deficiency.
But the disease which then sets in can also by ricochet effect create deficiencies — the causes being multifactorial — since a sick subject needs more intake to reduce his deficits and tend again towards homeostasis, he receives only a “maintenance dose” it will empty the reserves (in particular daily vitamin “C” which already cannot be stored) the subject will metabolize less well and part of the contributions will be eliminated because not transformed = this which leads to deficiencies, even if the subject has had maintenance inputs.
Example osteoporosis:

izentrop wrote:I say that because the conclusions of the study you highlighted are not convincing...
The claims in the study and article are taken against a small cohort of 138 patients.
Only 10 severe cases: 7 had Zn deficiency and were cancerous.
The other 3 died
these non-survivors also had profound simultaneous deficits of Se and Zn, and thus exhibited a kind of universal trace element deficiency.
It cannot be concluded that these patients were malnourished. : roll:
First, when in a study you have 94% of subjects who react favorably (which is the case here), you have no need to reduce the standard deviation. It is the overwhelming number that rules, and therefore it is you who is not convincing with these “10 serious cases”. Then the researchers refer to pre-existing studies that the last one had to (or not) validate (must read everything). Finally, the trace elements are salts, and in a salt there is no longer any intrinsic biochemical activity (except in response to metabolic needs which will borrow elements), it is therefore necessary to have further analyzes on the state of the other deficits to be categorical. Did you know? No. So you couldn't make a deduction like you did. On the other hand, you missed an essential and contradictory element: a cancer patient who is not malnourished does not exist and AT THE MINIMUM he was MANDATORY ALREADY SICK BEFORE he caught covid and necessarily in deficiency since a cancer patient has need more intake than a healthy individual (and it was the lack of sufficient intake that made him sick), but even if it's good they were there, they wouldn't have to figure in the CQFD cohort.

izentrop wrote:Conclusions:
Already given. You are sophistry again, and this time you didn't even have the "si" : Cheesy:

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