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by pedrodelavega » 21/07/21, 19:46

Situation in UK:

The number of cases:
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The number of deaths:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 21/07/21, 19:48

Yes and ? What are you trying to tell us?
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by ENERC » 21/07/21, 19:53

Christophe wrote:
izentrop wrote:He should have specified
96% of people who developed a symptomatic form
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 03929.html

But OK ! he is not minister of health, we cannot blame him for Jean : Twisted:


Propaganda! Do you read other people's messages and analyzes or are you just relaying these fake state news? : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:

Beware of the bias induced by the vaccine which creates many more asymptomatic forms.

We can quite have 60% of the vaccinated who catch the Covid but only with 4% of symptomatic form. I don't see where the propaganda is.
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by ABC2019 » 21/07/21, 21:22

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Yes and ? What are you trying to tell us?

maybe thanks to the vaccination, the case fatality rate of the covid has (finally) returned to that of an average flu?
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by Obamot » 21/07/21, 21:25

What's the purpose "yes" and why returned? : Cheesy:

ENERC wrote:
Christophe wrote:
izentrop wrote:He should have specified https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 03929.html

But OK ! he is not minister of health, we cannot blame him for Jean : Twisted:


Propaganda! Do you read other people's messages and analyzes or are you just relaying these fake state news? : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:

Beware of the bias induced by the vaccine which creates many more asymptomatic forms.

We can quite have 60% of the vaccinated who catch the Covid but only with 4% of symptomatic form. I don't see where the propaganda is.

If it is 4% symptomatic of all cases, then it was not even worth the trouble to develop a vaccine-thing to get there, the risk was then similar to the benefits and the HCQ + Az came to the end of it. almost half of that 4% ...

If it's 4% of 60%, then it's worse!
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 21/07/21, 21:34

(Unpayable Bozo who no longer even knows how to read and even less understand a graph. As for knowing how to count, there is nothing more than to pray ...)
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by izentrop » 22/07/21, 01:25

ENERC wrote:
Christophe wrote:
izentrop wrote:He should have specified https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 03929.html
But OK ! he is not minister of health, we cannot blame him for Jean : Twisted:
Propaganda! Do you read other people's messages and analyzes or are you just relaying these fake state news? : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:
Beware of the bias induced by the vaccine which creates many more asymptomatic forms.

We can quite have 60% of the vaccinated who catch the Covid but only with 4% of symptomatic form. I don't see where the propaganda is.
It's not complicated, there is a constant that comes up in recent stats on the delta variant:
To prevent hospitalizations and serious illnesses, Pfizer vaccines are 97,5% effective for the alpha variant and always 93% for the delta variant. https://www.fr24news.com/fr/a/2021/07/l ... passe.html
the efficacy of vaccines (Pfizer and AstraZeneca) against hospitalization with one dose is 75% for Delta and 78% for Alpha. With a complete vaccination schedule, we go to more than 90%.

“The effectiveness of vaccines against hospitalization is very high, even after a single dose, regardless of the vaccine and whatever the variant,” recalls on Twitter Meaghan Kall, epidemiologist at PHE.

Clearly, vaccination makes it possible, whatever happens and from the first dose, to reduce the severe forms of the disease and the effect of the hypothetical new wave of the Delta variant on hospital pressure. https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/entry/cov ... a8eed85424
Regarding the prevention of hospitalizations due to delta, another article by PHE suggested that Pfizer's vaccine was 94% effective after the first injection and at 96% after the second. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... ant-covid/
The ricans may be exaggerating, the prevention of hospitalizations due to the delta still exceeds the 90% efficiency mark after 2 doses :P

You should pin Christophe : Wink:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 22/07/21, 01:34

izentrop wrote:To prevent hospitalizations and serious illnesses, Pfizer vaccines are 97,5% effective for the alpha variant and always 93% for the delta variant

And out of 100% of unvaccinated people who get Alpha or Delta covid, how many percent are hospitalized in serious condition?
Incidentally, can 7% of vaccinated people nab the Delta version covid and be hospitalized in serious condition? No, I say that because otherwise, that would mean that among vaccinated people there is a 7% chance of ending up in a sheave or in a plastic bag ...? Or, of these 7%, is a part that dies because of the vaccine? If yes how much ? O divine Izy, enlighten me
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by Christophe » 22/07/21, 01:47

Hey provax ...

Here are the latest figures in Israel from the Ministry of Health: 42 and 60% ... pollution-prevention-health / 40-positive-covid-vaccines-in-israel-towards-a-villainous-reversal-of-pro-vax-t16908-370.html

Now shut it up with your false and ... criminal propaganda ?!
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by ABC2019 » 22/07/21, 06:40

Christophe wrote:Hey provax ...

Here are the latest figures in Israel from the Ministry of Health: 42 and 60% ... pollution-prevention-health / 40-positive-covid-vaccines-in-israel-towards-a-villainous-reversal-of-pro-vax-t16908-370.html

Now shut it up with your false and ... criminal propaganda ?!


a small article showing how difficult it is to have clean statistics

https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/ ... _3244.html

the data is stored in different files that do not communicate with each other (which is a little surprising because it means that they do not use the only unambiguous identifier to know who we are dealing with, the social security number, but the CNIL is very vigilant on the use of this identifier precisely so as not to allow too easy a crossing of personal data ...). Policy statements are purely for display, there is no very reliable data to back it up. It would surprise me if it was much more precise in Israel ...

the conclusion of the article is
A small proportion which must however, reminds the public body, be analyzed with nuance: unvaccinated patients are over-represented among people being tested, and the gradual implementation of the health pass - which requires them to be tested in order to be able to access health care. a large number of everyday places - could further accentuate this phenomenon. Factors which, according to DREES, “clearly show that it is not possible to precisely estimate vaccine efficacy via simple descriptive statistics”.


I would remind you that the ONLY method that avoids confounding factors (the fact that selected populations may have other differences than the one being tested) is the double-blind method. But if it is requested for the preliminary tests, it is obviously not possible when we start to vaccinate the population (a placebo should be administered randomly when we ask to be vaccinated!) We can therefore discuss endlessly about the effectiveness of vaccination, the figures will always be uncertain.
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