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Vaccine hysteria, should you get vaccinated? Scientifically understand vaccines to help decision-making




by humus » 13/07/21, 17:13

Faced with the current hysteria, we no longer know what to do, to get vaccinated or not, with what?
"An informed man is worth two."
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_de_Nuremberg
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The modern reference18 translation of the Nuremberg Code, made from the text of the judgment, is as follows for the 10 articles:

The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person concerned must have the legal capacity to consent; that it must be placed in a position to exercise a free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, coercion, deception, deception or other underhand forms of coercion or coercion; and that she must have sufficient knowledge and understanding of what this entails, so as to enable her to make an informed decision. This last point requires that, before accepting a positive decision by the test subject, he should be made aware of: the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the methods and means by which it will be carried out; all the inconveniences and risks that can be reasonably expected; and the consequences for his health or person, which could possibly arise as a result of his participation in the experiment. The obligation and responsibility to assess the quality of consent falls on each person who initiates, directs or works on the experiment. This is a personal obligation and responsibility that cannot be delegated with impunity;

Christian Velot, to know absolutely everything about vaccines.


Pr Raoult, in substance: "Rather an inactivated virus vaccine than playing the sorcerer's apprentice with the new types of" vaccination ".
The Chinese vaccine would be OK "


edit addition: to read also health-pollution-prevention / re-re-who-does-not-want-to-be-vaccinated-by-prudence-t16780.html
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by humus » 13/07/21, 17:19

If anyone, Obamot I believe, could put here a link to a scientific study showing the migration of the spike protein throughout the body of a deceased patient.
I get lost in all your subjects : Wink:
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by humus » 13/07/21, 19:23

Case of Myocarditis with Pfizer, mentioned by Raoult
https://sante.journaldesfemmes.fr/fiche ... -symptome/
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by humus » 13/07/21, 19:36

Inactivated virus vaccine, the only technology that wins the support of Velot and Raoult.
It is a classic vaccine.
It is not yet on sale.
VLA2001 is currently the only inactivated virus vaccine candidate against COVID-19 in clinical development in Europe.

https://www.mypharma-editions.com/covid ... n-inactive
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humus »13/07/21, 19:36
Inactivated virus vaccine, the only technology that wins the support of Velot and Raoult.
It is a classic vaccine.
It is not yet on sale.
an inactivated virus vaccine is almost like being injected with physiological saline. Or nothing, without toxic adjuvants like aluminum, it does not cause any immunity any more than a placebo. On the other hand, adjuvants make the organism react with the characteristic infection instead of injection and which is taken for a reaction to the dead virus.

Inactivated or inert vaccines | Vaccination Info Servicehttps: //professionnels.vaccinati ... service.fr ›Vacc ...
June 5, 2018 - Send by email ... Inactivated or inert vaccines are vaccines which have lost all infectious power by physicochemical process. They are ..
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by humus » 14/07/21, 07:03

Janic wrote:humus »13/07/21, 19:36
Inactivated virus vaccine, the only technology that wins the support of Velot and Raoult.
It is a classic vaccine.
It is not yet on sale.
an inactivated virus vaccine is almost like being injected with physiological saline. Or nothing, without toxic adjuvants like aluminum, it does not cause any immunity any more than a placebo. On the other hand, adjuvants make the organism react with the characteristic infection instead of injection and which is taken for a reaction to the dead virus.

Inactivated or inert vaccines | Vaccination Info Servicehttps: //professionnels.vaccinati ... service.fr ›Vacc ...
June 5, 2018 - Send by email ... Inactivated or inert vaccines are vaccines which have lost all infectious power by physicochemical process. They are ..

Indeed, that's what Velot more or less says.
If you absolutely want to be vaccinated, you have to choose the least worst.
Adjuvants or genetic vaccines?

Of course, there remains the option of treatment in the event of the onset of the disease.
Ivermectin, a promising treatment against Covid?
After months of debates on the usefulness of this controversial molecule, the Pasteur Institute has just released a study arguing for the effectiveness of ivermectin. In India, a WHO official is being prosecuted for having advised against it.

https://www.nouvelobs.com/societe/20210 ... covid.html
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by humus » 14/07/21, 07:15

And always with the objective of understanding why this agitation around compulsory vaccination: Yves Thréard at C in the air on 13/07/2021, in substance, "politically Macron would not survive one more confinement, therefore he is doing everything possible to avoid confinement in the fall (to still have a chance to be re-elected) "
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by humus » 14/07/21, 07:21

Reminder of the treatment at the Marseille IHU

# COVID-19: Prof. Raoult's team generalizes chloroquine-based treatment to all coronavirus-positive patients
| March 22, 2020 | by Caducee.net | | Share

illustration Prof. Philippe Brouqui, Prof. Jean-Christophe Lagier, Prof. Matthieu Million, Prof. Philippe Parola, Prof. Didier Raoult and Dr. Marie Hocquart announced on the website of the Institut Hospitalo-universitaire Marseille infection of the Timone their desire to treat without AMM all febrile patients who would be positive for COVID-19 with a combination of hydroxychloroquine (200 mg x 3 per day for 10 days) and Azithromycin (500 mg on the 1st day then 250 mg per day for 5 more days). They also denounce the fact that this treatment is not systematically integrated into all ongoing clinical trials.

" We have decided :
· For all febrile patients who come to consult us, to perform tests for the diagnosis of Covid 19 infection;
For all infected patients, a large number of whom have low symptoms and have pulmonary lesions on CT scan, to suggest the disease as soon as possible, upon diagnosis:
- treatment with the hydroxychloroquine combination (200 mg x 3 per day for 10 days) Azithromycin (500 mg on the 1st day then 250 mg per day for 5 more days), as part of the usual precautions for this combination ( with in particular an electrocardiogram on D0 and D2), and outside Marketing Authorization. In severe pneumonia, a broad-spectrum antibiotic is also combined. "



The Hippocratic oath invoked for off-label treatment
“In accordance with the Hippocratic Oath that we took, we obey our duty as a doctor. We provide our patients with the best possible care for the diagnosis and treatment of a disease. We respect the rules of the art and the most recently acquired data of medical science. "

Indeed, the treatment put in place by Professor Raoult and his teams is clearly off-label at this stage. This means that it has not received official authorizations to be generalized in the context of COVID-19 apart from the clinical trial carried out on about twenty patients.

An approach validated by the order of physicians of the PACA region
"The president did say that we were at war ... Now, when we are at war, should we do everything right? The methodology should not be the same as in peacetime. »Pierre Jouan, President of the Regional Council of the Paca Order of Physicians for FranceBleue Provence



For Professor Raoult's team, "it is not moral that this association is not systematically included in therapeutic trials concerning the treatment of Covid-19 infection in France"


https://www.caducee.net/actualite-medic ... virus.html
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by ABC2019 » 14/07/21, 07:34

humus wrote:Reminder of the treatment at the Marseille IHU


it's a thread on vaccines I remind you (which you yourself initiated by the way)
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by humus » 14/07/21, 07:59

ABC2019 wrote:
humus wrote:Reminder of the treatment at the Marseille IHU


it's a thread on vaccines I remind you (which you yourself initiated by the way)


What I wanted was a calm thread, to help calmly make a decision on vaccination.

As an alternative to the vaccine, treatments have their place, it is the zero vaccine option for subjects who are not at risk.
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